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9 LIVES 09-03-2017 06:29 PM

Ethanol in diesel
 
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This is news to me....maybe someone placed the sticker in the wrong place?

carlhenry 09-03-2017 06:59 PM

10%
 
yep it does

Bodacious 09-04-2017 02:44 AM

Woaaa. Learn something everyday. Or WV pumps don't have the stickers. Probably don't know how to spell it.??? lol

TheBac 09-04-2017 07:37 AM

I went to Exxon's site to try to find info on this, and found bubkis. They are open about ethanol in their gasolines (and obviously E85) but not one thing about ethanol in diesel.

I think the sticker was mistakenly applied to the pump.

biggy238 09-04-2017 11:27 AM

I think Omaha is the first place I saw it on the pump.

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Blueboy 09-05-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 9 LIVES (Post 2634201)
This is news to me....maybe someone placed the sticker in the wrong place?

I agree, I think this pump could have been converted from gas, to diesel
and sticker never got removed.

BigPapa 09-05-2017 01:21 PM

I just called my local fuel distributor and he said the pump is incorrectly labelled. There is no ethanol in any diesel.

RockinRam96 09-06-2017 06:39 AM

What would ethanol do in diesel fuel. I feel like it would be bad for the engine.

jasonc 09-06-2017 07:05 AM

Ethanol has kept my shop busy for the last 10yrs, it is terrible for outboard engines.

MegaCabRam 09-06-2017 07:05 AM

I'm know it helps out farmers and makes the gas cheaper but it makes a mess out of a engine, especially one that doesn't have the oil changed as often as it should, makes for a lot of sludge... It's also pretty bad on small engines, I run it in my mower just because ethanol free is kind of hard to find but I've heard of it causing some trouble.

Signature600 09-06-2017 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MegaCabRam (Post 2634530)
I'm know it helps out farmers and makes the gas cheaper....

Only reason it makes gas cheaper is the government subsidies...how do you make $2.35 gas from $3.55 corn, and spend millions of dollars building the refinery to do so?


Either way, there is no ethanol in diesel, but there is probably biodiesel now, usually up to 10% most places.

Chris

zstroken 09-06-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Signature600 (Post 2634556)
Only reason it makes gas cheaper is the government subsidies...how do you make $2.35 gas from $3.55 corn, and spend millions of dollars building the refinery to do so?


Either way, there is no ethanol in diesel, but there is probably biodiesel now, usually up to 10% most places.

Chris


The ethanol I think replaced MTBE IIRC. MTBE is some pretty nasty stuff

Signature600 09-06-2017 08:55 AM

Gotcha. That would make more sense that it's a very small portion...god forbid they actually explain things when they spend millions of taxpayer dollars...


Out here in ethanol and corn country they just say "we need corn" but don't pay any extra...

Chris

CorneliusRox 09-06-2017 12:34 PM

All I know is E85 is the cheapest race fuel you're ever going to buy!

Big Boy Toys 09-06-2017 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by carlhenry (Post 2634204)
yep it does

Are you sure?bif

59Dsul 09-06-2017 04:33 PM

Sig600,
There are ZERO subsidies for ethanol in the US. Like Z said, it replaced a very toxic additive while boosting octane. I run at least E10 in everything and have no regrets about it. I believe there are more problems with the base product 84 octane junk. Refineries kick out this junk fuel, blend it with ethanol to make a better fuel, and blame ethanol for all their problems.....

jasonc 09-06-2017 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 59Dsul (Post 2634654)
Sig600,
There are ZERO subsidies for ethanol in the US. Like Z said, it replaced a very toxic additive while boosting octane. I run at least E10 in everything and have no regrets about it. I believe there are more problems with the base product 84 octane junk. Refineries kick out this junk fuel, blend it with ethanol to make a better fuel, and blame ethanol for all their problems.....

I've been in the boat business over 25 years and have seen before ethanol/after ethanol well. It soaks water like crazy, up to 10% in open vent boats especially, then becomes very corrosive. All the aluminum in the fuel system is badly corroded and pitted. Breaks down the rubber in everything under about 2004. And that's before it just breaks them down by "phase separation"

jasonc 09-06-2017 06:58 PM

And I hate to say it but I have had ALOT of work that they wouldn't have had to pay me if they didn't ever run eth fuel.

1972RedNeck 10-02-2017 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Signature600 (Post 2634556)
Only reason it makes gas cheaper is the government subsidies...how do you make $2.35 gas from $3.55 corn, and spend millions of dollars building the refinery to do so?


That's like asking how you get a $3 cheeseburger out of a $1000 steer. A bushel of corn is a wee bit bigger than a gallon of ethanol.

RonA 10-03-2017 10:15 AM

A bushel of corn can (supposedly) make 2.8 gallons of ethanol and takes about 9.8 gallons of water to process.


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