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DCSpecial 08-24-2006 08:33 PM

Super Duty Brake Upgrades
 
I was looking on your website at the Powerslot Rotors and Hawk Pads that you carry for the Ford SD.

What's the benefits of going with the cryo rotors vs. the standard one?
Appears to only be $60 more per pair.


Also, what are the difference in the different Hawk Pads?
All appear to be within $10 of each other.


These would be for my 2001 F-350 PSD...running on 38" tires.


Thanks,
Dan

Mark Craig 08-25-2006 07:56 AM

DCSpecial,

The cyro'ed rotors are much more able to handle high heat from friction and do not warp, especially as compared to stock rotors. The Powerslots start as raw castings from the foundry (other companies that supposedly build performance rotors use the same rotors you would get form the local auto parts warehouses), they do all their machine work in house and it is a heavier thicker casting, their slots are tapered to the edge of the rotor to be used as a wear indicator. If you can't see a slot at the edge you have worn the rotor below the minimum thickness to have it turned etc.

The pads are different compounds, for 99% of customers they need the LTS compound, if you tow ALL and I mean ALL the time and tow heavy or use the truck as a utility vehicle with a lift, welder, compressor etc on it then the Super Duty compound pads might be an option.

I can tell you this I was very skeptical of them, they sent me a set for my truck with the contract that if I liked them they wanted me to become a WD for them. It's has been the best non HP mod I have ever done, since then my wife's Navigator has them and it's been great too!!

On thing, you HAVE to follow their bedding in procedure, very very important!!

If you have any questions just call.

Mark @ DPPI

DCSpecial 08-25-2006 08:29 PM

Mark,

Thanks for the great info on the rotors and pads.

Is there a noticeable difference in braking performance with the Powerslot/Hawk combo vs. stock?


Thanks,
Dan

Mark Craig 08-28-2006 09:15 AM

DCSpecial,

Under "normal" usage not a lot, but if you have to really get slowed down fast like on an Interstate traffic deal you'll definetly feel/see the difference!!

Mark @ DPPI

Timbeaux 08-28-2006 09:23 AM

How about noise and pedal feel Mark? I'm gonna need brakes soon

Mark Craig 08-28-2006 09:42 AM

Timbeaux38,

So long as the rest of the system, calipers, hoses, M/Cylinder etc are in good order the pedal feel is slightly firmer. If you follow their bedding in procedure to the letter there won't be any noise either, just MAKE sure you do it as directed or you could have some squeak/squeal!

Mark @ DPPI

_CH_ 08-28-2006 01:19 PM

mark,
how about the hawk pads w/ stock rotors?
my rotors are fine but i will need to get some pads soon

Mark Craig 08-28-2006 01:31 PM

_CH_ ,

Yep they work good there too, you probably want the LTS pad compound. If you tow 99.99% or the time or have a service truck that is heavily loaded the Super Duty pads are good but we fine for 99% of our customers the LTS is the way to go.

Mark @ DPPI

DCSpecial 08-28-2006 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Craig
DCSpecial,

Under "normal" usage not a lot, but if you have to really get slowed down fast like on an Interstate traffic deal you'll definetly feel/see the difference!!

Mark @ DPPI

Mark,
Thanks for the info. That's good to hear.......need all the help I can when I need to stop fast with these 38s.

Do they seem to last about as long as stocks or do they last longer?

dmax35 08-28-2006 04:09 PM

Is there any thump thump thump noise when braking is applied from the slots.

Mark Craig 08-28-2006 05:02 PM

DCSpecial,

Close to stock lifespan, but the Hawk pad is more of a heat sink so it does wear faster some. But the upside is it's easier on the rotor because of it.

Mark @ DPPI

Mark Craig 08-28-2006 05:02 PM

dmax35,

No noise at all from the slots!

Mark @ DPPI

DCSpecial 08-28-2006 08:02 PM

Mark,

Cool, thanks for the info.
I'll most likely be in touch with you sometime soon :D

Mark Craig 09-01-2006 10:34 AM

DCSpecial,

We'll be here when you call!!

Mark @ DPPI

Burner 09-01-2006 11:31 AM

Mark, will the SuperDuty pads cause a problem if the truck is unloaded?

What is the BEST (not most $$) system on the market? Rotor, Pads and Caliper. Include the Cyro and ceramic composites, please. :ylsuper:

Mark Craig 09-01-2006 12:25 PM

Burner,

If you run empty with them you'll not generally generate enough heat to get them to working temperatures and your braking performance will suffer etc.

Mark @ DPPI

Burner 09-01-2006 12:30 PM

Empty truck weighs about 9k........ is that enough or does it need more?

Mark Craig 09-01-2006 12:43 PM

Burner,

You really want the LTS pads for 9000K, even when towing you'll be better off!

Mark @ DPPI

Burner 09-01-2006 12:59 PM

GREAT! Towing.... just the truck and trailer will sketch in around 16,000. Just add 0 to 15k on top of that for loads.....






...ok, ok I gott'a add the 110 mph "Rut Roe" ........slam on the brakes events as well. :lolly:

txastuff79 09-02-2006 05:39 PM

calipers.... who makes a good set of aftermarket calipers and possible stainless steel brake lines? dcspecial, im guessing your a dealer... pm me a deal price for both front and rear slotted cryo rotors, pads and i am looking into replacing my front calipers mainly do to the l/f is sticking... wearing out the pads faster than the right.

thomas


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