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not enoughsmoke 01-14-2018 09:44 PM

aluminum Car hauler
 
o my Dad bought this 48' Raven Semi trailer in 2003-04 when scrap and aluminum prices were up. lucky for us we had a friend that owned a scrap yard and bought this before it was cut up. The trailer was completely stripped down of all steels and sold as clean aluminum. So Dad Rigged up a hay wagon to it and drug it home. It has been sitting till time to start this project. He wants a 30' dual tandem Goose-neck trailer. and told me i can have whats left so 18ft car-hauler it is.
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not enoughsmoke 01-14-2018 09:45 PM

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Red Sleeper 01-15-2018 05:00 AM

How do you plan on attaching the c-channel to the aluminum frame?

Very cool project and use of scrap trailer bed.

dieselbeef 01-15-2018 06:44 AM

it can only be bolted..no other way

4x4dually 01-15-2018 06:50 AM

Here for pictures. That's bad ass.

dieselbeef 01-15-2018 07:12 AM

need to grind that rust off before ya weld it son....that inclusion will make it ugly...

zstroken 01-15-2018 09:19 AM

Also, I would use a rubber coating or something between the steel and aluminum. If not you will have all sorts corrosion issues.

sootie 01-15-2018 09:39 AM

duct tape works as well for an isolator

Highwayman 01-15-2018 11:42 AM

Is that half of an I beam going to be alright?

dieselbeef 01-15-2018 11:50 AM

im curious how you cut that

Red Sleeper 01-15-2018 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dieselbeef (Post 2652078)
im curious how you cut that

Reciprocating saw works well.

Signature600 01-15-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Highwayman (Post 2652076)
Is that half of an I beam going to be alright?

I would say it depends on what he's hauling....Semi trailers are usually built for a maximum weight per foot, say 10K lbs in 10' up to 16K lbs in 8' is what I've seen.

Depending on the load, and the spread, I can see it being just fine. However, what I would be skeptical of is the placement of the axles under the "cross members." those are much lighter than a normal place to attach axles.

Again, all depends on how heavy he wants to use it...it wouldn't work for me I can assure you. I'm like the postal service, if it fits it ships....but there ain't no low flat rate...


Either way, cool project.
Chris

dieselbeef 01-15-2018 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Sleeper (Post 2652082)
Reciprocating saw works well.

those are damn nice cuts for a sawzall...that's why I asked...

PVXCummins 01-15-2018 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Signature600 (Post 2652085)
Again, all depends on how heavy he wants to use it...it wouldn't work for me I can assure you. I'm like the postal service, if it fits it ships....but there ain't no low flat rate...

I snickered at this comment and kinda nodded my head like 'Yup, kinda sounds like my train of thought as well.' More so as, the trailer spec is just a suggestion...something meant to be "tested" on the daily.'

None the less, awesome build on the trailer, following this for sure.

Signature600 01-15-2018 02:31 PM

Yeah, we test our stuff.


Not to high jack, but here's what we do in my shop when a customer wants a trailer for his manure pump...

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...pictureid=3526

And the pump we're building too...

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...pictureid=3527


Again, don't mean to high jack....just two examples of building from the crap pile. I bought the axle/springs, jack, and the trailer coupler...the rest came from the steel pile.

Chris

not enoughsmoke 01-15-2018 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sleeper (Post 2652015)
How do you plan on attaching the c-channel to the aluminum frame?

Very cool project and use of scrap trailer bed.

i am going to have c channel braces welded and bolted to each channel
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Originally Posted by dieselbeef (Post 2652022)
it can only be bolted..no other way

bolted or riveted. I only have 1 tho
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Originally Posted by 4x4dually (Post 2652024)
Here for pictures. That's bad ass.

thanks
Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselbeef (Post 2652025)
need to grind that rust off before ya weld it son....that inclusion will make it ugly...

I will its getting mocked up more than anything right now

not enoughsmoke 01-15-2018 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by zstroken (Post 2652054)
Also, I would use a rubber coating or something between the steel and aluminum. If not you will have all sorts corrosion issues.

i am plannign on a polymyer between the aluminum and steel

Quote:

Originally Posted by sootie (Post 2652057)
duct tape works as well for an isolator

yes i have read that but i wanna go a lil better than that
Quote:

Originally Posted by Highwayman (Post 2652076)
Is that half of an I beam going to be alright?

I will making it back into a I beam again but first have to get clearance for the axles.
Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselbeef (Post 2652078)
im curious how you cut that

Metal Circular saw simialr to this but mine came from TSC
OnlineToolReviews.com - Ozito Metal Cutting Circular Saw - Detailed Review
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Originally Posted by Red Sleeper (Post 2652082)
Reciprocating saw works well.

it does where the circular saw cant get to and a wood blade

not enoughsmoke 01-15-2018 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Signature600 (Post 2652085)
I would say it depends on what he's hauling....Semi trailers are usually built for a maximum weight per foot, say 10K lbs in 10' up to 16K lbs in 8' is what I've seen.

Depending on the load, and the spread, I can see it being just fine. However, what I would be skeptical of is the placement of the axles under the "cross members." those are much lighter than a normal place to attach axles.

Again, all depends on how heavy he wants to use it...it wouldn't work for me I can assure you. I'm like the postal service, if it fits it ships....but there ain't no low flat rate...


Either way, cool project.
Chris

i will definitely be adding more strength to it as i am really building this to haul my zero turn lawn mower it has a 72" deck on it and only fits on my goose-neck trailer.And by the way my mom is a postal carrier so i get the motto:lolly:

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Originally Posted by PVXCummins (Post 2652104)
I snickered at this comment and kinda nodded my head like 'Yup, kinda sounds like my train of thought as well.' More so as, the trailer spec is just a suggestion...something meant to be "tested" on the daily.'

None the less, awesome build on the trailer, following this for sure.

thanks
Quote:

Originally Posted by Signature600 (Post 2652111)
Yeah, we test our stuff.



Again, don't mean to high jack....just two examples of building from the crap pile. I bought the axle/springs, jack, and the trailer coupler...the rest came from the steel pile.

Chris

stay tunes it will get better wait till you see the 1/2" aluminum fenders :lolly:

not enoughsmoke 01-15-2018 10:13 PM

It will be 102" wide with drive over fenders made from 1/2" aluminum plate the tires are 235/75/16 on ford aluminum Alcoa wheels
i had to cut the side of the frame and the beams to get the trailer as low as possible i am planning on going back and finishing out the bottom of the beam once i get the axles placed and setup i plan on trying to close up most of the holes where the channels are however the hole where the c channel is going thru the beams they are 1 piece the places that they are not are 3 separate pieces if you click on this link this trailer that Gas monkey garage has in very similar to what i am building but also i am coping my Goose-neck that i currently have http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/u...pse98899e3.jpg
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https://www.pjtrailers.com/uses/gas-...arage-trailer/

Signature600 01-16-2018 07:01 AM

I'd say you have it covered then. Good job!!
Chris


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