malibu795
2wd numb nut
more of a smartass comment hint hte smilie
i was tlaking about 2 different tires in said post
Calling All 2wds....
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more of a smartass comment hint hte smilie
i was tlaking about 2 different tires in said post
2wpuller
letting the smoke fly
Can't we all just get along:clap:Just giving everyone trouble.In a good mood the Doc told me yesterday that I can go back to wirk on Jan 5th but I have to gothrough a 3day testing for the compony shoulder still hurts like hell in certin positions I guese I'll find out if I can hack it.So that means a pay check after almost 4months.and start on the 2wd:woohoo:
All the snow and Ice is gone down here after all the rain we had last night and its still raining temp.is dropping going down to 30 this afternoon..freezing rain sucks.
Dale
All the snow and Ice is gone down here after all the rain we had last night and its still raining temp.is dropping going down to 30 this afternoon..freezing rain sucks.
Dale
kuntryboy369
"That Guy"
yeah digging in sand isnt good. id think they would do work on dirt or clay.
kuntryboy369
"That Guy"
so back to my frist question.... what do i need to make a good puller? i have a 4x4 and a little diesel drag background. so im just about worthless at building a puller.
kino_fab
KTPA Tech Official
Double Disk cluch
About 500hp atleast to be competitive in a 2.6 class
Traction Bars
Rear adjustable suspension stops
front weight bracket
adjustable reece reciever hitch
A good set of All Terrain tires
Also another truck to use as a Daily Driver or to make into your puller. If you love your truck and enjoy its comfortablitly that it has now, do not Mod your truck for sled pulling. Especially if its the only thing you have to drive. I know you say you probably will only hook a couple of times, but it gets addicting fast. If I had it to do over agian, I would either buy another CR for a Daily Driver, or I would have never modded my truck and bought a 12V to build. Just be sure your willing to sacrafise all the nice stuff your truck has now and don't be affraid to break anything. Its not a matter of "If it happens" its "When it happens".
About 500hp atleast to be competitive in a 2.6 class
Traction Bars
Rear adjustable suspension stops
front weight bracket
adjustable reece reciever hitch
A good set of All Terrain tires
Also another truck to use as a Daily Driver or to make into your puller. If you love your truck and enjoy its comfortablitly that it has now, do not Mod your truck for sled pulling. Especially if its the only thing you have to drive. I know you say you probably will only hook a couple of times, but it gets addicting fast. If I had it to do over agian, I would either buy another CR for a Daily Driver, or I would have never modded my truck and bought a 12V to build. Just be sure your willing to sacrafise all the nice stuff your truck has now and don't be affraid to break anything. Its not a matter of "If it happens" its "When it happens".
2wpuller
letting the smoke fly
Well stated Kino deffently need another truck to drive once youstart pulling it hard to stop :rockwoot:
don't forget about bigger injectors.Bigger turbo,bigger pump,bigger ujoints.Drive shaft sheilds.
Dale
kuntryboy369
"That Guy"
"...Just be sure your willing to sacrafise all the nice stuff your truck has now and don't be affraid to break anything. Its not a matter of "If it happens" its "When it happens"."
thats my motto for wheelin. i acutaly bought my dodge, so i can make my yota into a wheeler, (then the diesel bug bit me) so i know how that goes.
do i need that kevlar flywheel cover? can i run twins in that class? i have some turbos options sitting in my closet waiting on a DD clutch.
kuntryboy369
"That Guy"
once i get my injectors, injector tubes, turbo(s) and clutch i plan on 600hp. so it sounds like all i need to do is put it to the ground, and keep it there.
kino_fab
KTPA Tech Official
There are many different combo's out there. Ask around to some of the local pullers in your area and see what Classes they have. Your best bet would be to start out in a smaller class. A good combo that I have seen work around here is a 62/71/14 S300 turbo, ATS Manifold or similar, Blue Chip Redline Box, 200hp injectors, water-meth kit. You will defenatly want to Stud the head and possibly fire ring it. Valve springs would be a good bit of Insurance aswell. As for a double Disk clutch you will need to get atleast a 3850 or 4200. Anything less than that will not last long on the track. Is your truck a Cummins H.O. or Standard (6spd or 5spd). If it is a H.O. truck, you will want to swap the injector pump for a S.O. pump or a HRVP. The H.O pumps will limit your HP quite a bit. I have seen 100+hp gains just by going with a S.O. pump.
The turbo I mentioned is a 2.5 legal turbo. and it will still allow the truck to be a good daily driver. But if you get another truck to drive and make this one into a full time puller, I would give Chris at Empire Diesel a call and have him build you a S465. You can still drive it on the street, but it will be very laggy. The S465 is 2.6 legal and depending on who machine the inspection plugs at the pulls you go to, it may possibly be 2.5 legal.
If your truck is a 6spd with 3.54 gears, you don't need to change any gearing. Run 4th Low and a good set of 33" All Terrain Tires. Some places you go to may have a good high speed sled and a good track so you may be able to run 2nd high. Just be carful in 2nd high with the 6spd. I have seen many Main Shafts break in side the tranny, including my truck. If its a 5spd run 3rd low. If you have 4.10 gears with a 5spd, you may be able to run 2nd high aswell but it will have to be on a real high speed sled.
Hope this helps
The turbo I mentioned is a 2.5 legal turbo. and it will still allow the truck to be a good daily driver. But if you get another truck to drive and make this one into a full time puller, I would give Chris at Empire Diesel a call and have him build you a S465. You can still drive it on the street, but it will be very laggy. The S465 is 2.6 legal and depending on who machine the inspection plugs at the pulls you go to, it may possibly be 2.5 legal.
If your truck is a 6spd with 3.54 gears, you don't need to change any gearing. Run 4th Low and a good set of 33" All Terrain Tires. Some places you go to may have a good high speed sled and a good track so you may be able to run 2nd high. Just be carful in 2nd high with the 6spd. I have seen many Main Shafts break in side the tranny, including my truck. If its a 5spd run 3rd low. If you have 4.10 gears with a 5spd, you may be able to run 2nd high aswell but it will have to be on a real high speed sled.
Hope this helps
2wpuller
letting the smoke fly
I don't think Chris is going to spank you for a mistakelike but if you do it again he might breack out the big paddle with the holes in it.:kick:
Well I have to go out in the garage and start takeing out my clutch in my old ford one of the clutch disk center is comming apart bad vibration 12deg outside 72 inside:woohoo: and have alot more ather things to do on the old girl.You guy's try to stay warm.:charger:
Dale
Well I have to go out in the garage and start takeing out my clutch in my old ford one of the clutch disk center is comming apart bad vibration 12deg outside 72 inside:woohoo: and have alot more ather things to do on the old girl.You guy's try to stay warm.:charger:
Dale
kuntryboy369
"That Guy"
i have a 5 speed, so when i do the clutch im getting the flywheel and imput shaft too. after the clutch im throwing 3.54 gears and a detroit locker out back. do the tires have to be street legal? and why all-terrain and not like boggers or bgf krawlers or somthing like that?
i can get my hands on some huge turbos. i have a hx40m over a ht3b in my closet. (if that dosnt work then im going stupid with it.)
kino_fab
KTPA Tech Official
Most organizations and even brush pulls for that matter do not allow any type of a twins setup. Ask around your area about the turbo rules first. Also bigger isn't always best. A bigger turbo will also require alot more RPM to keep it spooled. With the VP trucks being limited to 4K RPM with a Redline Box or Quadzilla Adrenilan, to big of a turbo will choke out.
I take it your truck has 4.10's since you say your changing them. I personally would leave them alone and run 2nd high with stock size tires, though if you go with the 3.54's, run 3rd low and 35" tire. Go a few post back and you will see our discussion on why All Terrains are better at most tracks. Basically boggers and crawlers dig way too much. You want something that will stay on top of the ground more than something that digs ditches. Most places also require the tires to be street legal only and no cut tires.
I take it your truck has 4.10's since you say your changing them. I personally would leave them alone and run 2nd high with stock size tires, though if you go with the 3.54's, run 3rd low and 35" tire. Go a few post back and you will see our discussion on why All Terrains are better at most tracks. Basically boggers and crawlers dig way too much. You want something that will stay on top of the ground more than something that digs ditches. Most places also require the tires to be street legal only and no cut tires.
kuntryboy369
"That Guy"
got ya. well i have some huge turbo ideas in the pipeline. the only bad thing is they will be set up for drag ... a cam will help spool a big turbo i assume? and will i need headwork (springs, keepers, studs, o-ring) to keep her together at 4k?
kuntryboy369
"That Guy"
is there much difference in a 2wd puller and a dragster?
kino_fab
KTPA Tech Official
Depends on what exactly that your asking. As for suspension setup, they are actually pretty similar. There is an article on the internet called "How to launch a drag car". It has alot of tips and information on seting up a drag race suspension. Not nessesarliy the overall design of a suspension, but more about mounting points, center of gravity, wieght transfer, ect.... I used it quite a bit helping my Mustang and Camaro buddies at the drag strips, and since then used it on our 2wd gasser and my 4x4 dually. It all seems to work about the same. Some of it even went into the design of Lynn's 2wd Diesel. Check it out. Google that title and it may bring it up.