10.90 Class for 2018?

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I have heard rumors that there may not be a 10.90 class for next year, I just wanted to get some clarification from the powers at be on the matter... I am building a new truck for that class this winter.

Thanks!
 
That has been debated for years. Problem is 10.90 makes guys actually install cages and everyone wants to build street race trucks. They should have pulled the class a long time ago and made it a 10 second class called modified street or something for low budget race trucks and no index
 
Justappumped24v said:
That has been debated for years. Problem is 10.90 makes guys actually install cages and everyone wants to build street race trucks. They should have pulled the class a long time ago and made it a 10 second class called modified street or something for low budget race trucks and no index
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That's how SS started, and what it was originally for.
 
10.90 or any other class will not survive if no one shows up to race. People begged for the class for years. Randy finally gave in and there has never been more than 7 competitors in the class at one race. Most races this year had 3 or less. I don't think he will have it this year. If it does survive, it won't be a points class.
 
I think the NHRDA should dump the 11.9 index and go with an 11.0 and a 10.0 index classes. Side by side fast racing is way more fun to watch than one truck beating another by 1.5 seconds. Or oiling down the track.
 
vsouth said:
10.90 or any other class will not survive if no one shows up to race. People begged for the class for years. Randy finally gave in and there has never been more than 7 competitors in the class at one race. Most races this year had 3 or less. I don't think he will have it this year. If it does survive, it won't be a points class.
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It would be cool if they had a 10.0 class. But in all honesty, how many actively raced 10 second trucks are there?
 
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More people are building race specific trucks but why do orgs not work together on classes. Our 7.70 class is absolute packed and 6.70 had good showing of 12-16 trucks. A full field in a 6.70 class is impressive in my opinion. That said events are going to need to turn into shows. we have to speed up the racing and put on more of a show
 
Looks like the NHRDA hasn't posted on anything in a year... I guess this isn't the right place to ask questions.
 
97rada said:
More people are building race specific trucks but why do orgs not work together on classes.
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I think ego has a lot to do with it. I agree, for diesel racing to grow there needs to be the same classes across the organizations. This may help things, it surely can't hurt. I'm having a hard time getting excited to put my truck back together and driving a thousand miles to race 2-6 trucks in my class.

I'd not have a problem slowing my truck down to run an index class if there was more competitors to race. For me it's about having trucks in the class to race. I'm spoiled though as i race locally most every weekend and compete in a class that averages over 70 cars per event.
 
IdahoRob said:
I think ego has a lot to do with it. I agree, for diesel racing to grow there needs to be the same classes across the organizations. This may help things, it surely can't hurt. I'm having a hard time getting excited to put my truck back together and driving a thousand miles to race 2-6 trucks in my class.



I'd not have a problem slowing my truck down to run an index class if there was more competitors to race. For me it's about having trucks in the class to race. I'm spoiled though as i race locally most every weekend and compete in a class that averages over 70 cars per event.
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With your truck you do that's? I honestly want to see a 6.50 class. Same class as the gas cars then we can go have fun with them as well. I want to branch out and race gas as diesel events. Gas events move very quickly
 
Do any diesel organizations run a quicker index class than 10.90? All we really have down here is NHRDA and local gas races.
 
Looks like to me all the NHRDA races are suffering with fewer competitors and very few spectators. Diesel racing is not a good spectator sport and the events are so strung out that the travel to each event is expensive and time consuming. Use to be a good number of contingency sponsors upwards of 15 or so, how many this past year about 4 or 5?

As Rob said it's way more fun to race when there are a lot of competitors like we have at the local tracks with the gas rigs. There very few break downs or oil downs which plague diesel events. As far as the classes go, the ones that carry the diesel events are the sportsman and the 11.90 index. There are a lot of guys who don't want to put a cage/roll bar in their street truck. Talking about trying to get a faster class when the current ones are pretty much a bust doesn't make much sense.

You would be better off trying to talk your local track into a diesel class or race the gas cars.
 
Subman631 said:
Looks like to me all the NHRDA races are suffering with fewer competitors and very few spectators. Diesel racing is not a good spectator sport and the events are so strung out that the travel to each event is expensive and time consuming. Use to be a good number of contingency sponsors upwards of 15 or so, how many this past year about 4 or 5?

As Rob said it's way more fun to race when there are a lot of competitors like we have at the local tracks with the gas rigs. There very few break downs or oil downs which plague diesel events. As far as the classes go, the ones that carry the diesel events are the sportsman and the 11.90 index. There are a lot of guys who don't want to put a cage/roll bar in their street truck. Talking about trying to get a faster class when the current ones are pretty much a bust doesn't make much sense.

You would be better off trying to talk your local track into a diesel class or race the gas cars.
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I hear ya, I just feel a faster index may attract some SS trucks and the few 10.90 trucks to make the that middle of the road class larger and more entertaining to watch. In my personal case, building a dedicated race truck to only run 10.90s kinda leaves me wanting more, but not enough to go SS.

There is a big "investment gap" between a SS truck and 10.90 truck, but really not much between a 10.90 and 11.90 besides the cage, so in my mind if I am going to put a cage in a truck, I want to go faster than a 10.90.
 
I don't have the time, energy, or money to run with the top SS guys anymore, the last few races i went to, there was not even a hand full of SS competitors anyway.

I like index racing as it adds driver experience and talent to the game of winning. That being said, i don't see me traveling long distances to race against a few trucks anymore. If we could come up with a solution and have at least a 16 truck field, then i would make some distance races a priority.
 
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IdahoRob said:
I don't have the time, energy, or money to run with the top SS guys anymore, the last few races i went to, there was not even a hand full of SS competitors anyway.

I like index racing as it adds driver experience and talent to the game of winning. That being said, i don't see me traveling long distances to race against a few trucks anymore. If we could come up with a solution and have at least a 16 truck field, then i would make some distance races a priority.
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I'm in the same situation. I race in 10.90 classes both in NHRA, and in local diesel races. Most of my passes in a year are in the NHRA Pro E.T. class, however. I do find the 10.90 index class adds a little extra challenge, because I tune to run 10.90.

I started racing with the NHRDA from the very beginning, and would not trade those experiences for anything. I still try to make the NHRDA races if the schedule permits and the event is close.

Just as a point of reference I make around 350 10 second 1/4 passes a year.

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I have to agree with the two organizations running similar classes. I would love to run 10.50 index but making it to the odss events are a bit of a long haul for us especially with young kids. As far as attendance I believe a 10.50 would draw more competitors from both sides and possibly some older ss trucks. Of the nhrda events we made it to this year we saw just as many 10.90 trucks as ss trucks. As far as index classes I believe pro street is already at 7.99 and ss is just about at 8.50


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IdahoRob said:
I don't have the time, energy, or money to run with the top SS guys anymore, the last few races i went to, there was not even a hand full of SS competitors anyway.

I like index racing as it adds driver experience and talent to the game of winning. That being said, i don't see me traveling long distances to race against a few trucks anymore. If we could come up with a solution and have at least a 16 truck field, then i would make some distance races a priority.
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Exactly, I hate to look over here and see the same exact problems that diesel racing had some 10 years ago. There's been enough time to figure all that out. Exactly why lots of the fastest run mostly Gas index races, a good racer wants competition not a easy win between 3 or 4 cars. Index is where it's at and has been for at least 6 or 7 years for sure. 90 percent of my few years diesel racing was Gas events running 5.00, 5.80, and 6.00 index. Was a blast.
In this much time the Other goof balls should have fizzled away or they 'got together' and had every class set up as an index, possibly expect for Top Diesel but even then you just do it as a 6.00 index and let the boundaries continue to try and be pushed.
 
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