anti gel of choice

mikmaze

mikmaze

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well winter is stepping in quick this year, and I don't want to get stranded again. Got stuck last year with a bed case of the gells. ended up heating fuel on the stove and pouring it back into tank, I don't want to end up in that shape again. What are you using, how much, and where do you live? I was stranded in mid state NY at about 15 below actual temperature. Had a half bottle of power service white bottle in 32 gallons of fuel.
 
Crazy how you gelled at that temp. I've been down to -40 without issue. Biggest thing is to make sure you're getting winter blend fuel.
 
I haven't had an issue before, but carry a bottle of diesel 911 in the tool box just in case. Always thought that if I seen the fuel pressure gauge start dropping, I'd stop and add it.

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after the gell, I added 2 bottles of 911 and no help, had to remove filters and cook them on the stove too.
 
I've seen people add a gallon of gas to a full tank of diesel to help lower gelling point. But to me seems like you got some fuel that wasn't winter blend. And 911 is meant to be added to the tank before gelling as it lowers the gelling point. I believe I could be thinking wrong.
 
To answer the op question. I would use Howes. I too had gelled up using Power Service at less temp with winter blend. While it has its place and fans, I will use Howes in the winter. I think the other popular one is Standyne for anitgel, Howes is just more readily available for me.
 
Been running my truck for 5 winters now and havn't gelled yet that I can recall. I religiously add a good glug or two (depending on temps) of the white Power Service stuff to every tank.

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I use the white power service and haven't had a problem down to -30f or so. I've had truck stop winter blend gel at +25 before so I always add it in the winter.

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I run power service in every tank, one ounce PS to three gallons fuel. I always start putting it in when the overnight temp drops below 35*. I carry a bottle of PS 911 in each diesel vehicle that I own and have never had issues. I have had to put 911 in a friends truck before after he started to gel. Keep in mind that it takes a while to reverse the effects of gelling, proper treatment before cold temps hit is the best way to prevent gelling.
 
Travis, that is key. Start treating the tank before the air freezes. We use FPPF polar power, and Meltdown in emergency situations.
 
One more thing to consider with this new **** fuel is the waxing that comes along with it. The waxing along with a 2 micron filter is a no go...
 
We use stanadyne fuel additive in our bulk tanks and have never had a problem with gelling, we have also seen a big decrease in injection pumps that we had to replace in our machinery since we started using it.
 
The bio fuels add a issues in the mix too. They are never the same blend and guys typically wait until it's too late to add the additive in and you're on the side of the road. Make sure you are getting anti gel compatible with bio fuels. I've heard of some chain stores that are pushing old stock stuff and it isn't compatible with bio fuel. Last year I ran Howes just because it was a little cheaper but I have always used power service in the past. My wife's excursion gelled 2 winters ago when it was -12* out and I had PS in it. I'm pretty sure the fuel was just crap because I knew others that got fuel at the same place and they all had issues. I try to buy fuel from the same reliable places if I can to minimize the problems. :)
 
mikmaze said:
after the gell, I added 2 bottles of 911 and no help, had to remove filters and cook them on the stove too.
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I understand what 911 does but how can 911 travel up the fuel lines if it can't circulate or agitate? If it can't do either, I can understand why 911 doesn't work.
 
oldestof11 said:
I understand what 911 does but how can 911 travel up the fuel lines if it can't circulate or agitate? If it can't do either, I can understand why 911 doesn't work.
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I've always wondered the same thing, seems to work for one guy and not the next. But I thought in a gelled situation one was supposed to empty the fuel filter and refill with 911 or product of choice, then reinstall filter and add 911 to tank. I can see that working pretty well.

BTW, I run a 2 Micron secondary fuel filter year round with white PS, havn't gelled, froze or waxed up yet. I wonder if excessively poor fuel is the bigger culprit than the anti-gel product.

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Obviously, exposed pumps and filters and such (FASS, Airdog,etc) will cause waxing and gelling much sooner than OEM configurations. I've had similar experiences to yours. Power Service doesn't work for me either. Dad always uses Howes and has never gelled. I used it for a couple years, and it always worked well for me too. And it's available at almost every truck stop.

This past year, I used the Cummins recommended Winter Conditioner, and it worked very well too. That's what I've been using (and will use) this winter as well. Info here: https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/sites/default/files/LT32599_08_0.pdf

I don't know that ^^ is the best, but it gives me a warm fuzzy. I've tried alot of other big and small names that didn't work so well. One of the additives even froze in the bottle and wouldn't pour out.

--Eric
 
911 isn't the best. It's just what it is 911 when you've gelled. I run power services or howes up here in Canada. .5 litre in each tank every second fill. Never gelled once. Buying fuel from someone know to have sh!t fuel will leave you stranded as well. The moisture will kill you. Some trucks also don't run warm enough fuel to the tanks. Both my series 60 run enough return that at -30 Celsius it will
Melt snow off the tank.
 
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