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99GreenCummins · 11-20-2013, 03:27 PM

What's everyone using for shop heat?

We bought a new farm last winter and am now starting to design the inside of the current building to be my shop. Its a 3 bay 50x30 building. The shop part will be the lower level of the building. 1 wall is against a hill and the 2 sides are half covered from dirt.

In our old shop we used a old greenhouse heater. I want gas fed hanging type heater.

Will try to get a picture before dark since pictures are worth a thousand words.

StainlessRRA · 11-20-2013, 03:54 PM

I run a gas fed hanging heater in one of my shops and it doesn't hold a candle to my radiant set up.

99GreenCummins · 11-20-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA

I run a gas fed hanging heater in one of my shops and it doesn't hold a candle to my radiant set up.

As in hot water running through tubes in the floor?

SHughes · 11-20-2013, 04:32 PM

I use summer for heating and winter for cooling.

TheSilverBullet · 11-20-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SHughes

I use summer for heating and winter for cooling.

StainlessRRA · 11-20-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 99GreenCummins

As in hot water running through tubes in the floor?

No, overhead and gas powered.

Meyers Farms · 11-20-2013, 06:02 PM

We just went from gas fed forced air to gas fed overhead radiant heat. There is no comparison, the radiant heat is awesome. Radiant heat is just like the sun it heats objects not the air. With radiant heat a higher ceiling is preferred to let the heater cover a larger area. If no concrete is poured yet, radiant floor heat would be my vote. Radiant floor heat can be fed by a wood fired boiler if that is an option for you.

Shawdrainage · 11-20-2013, 06:07 PM

Heated concrete floor. We did it in our 60x80x16. It's expensive, but it was worth it. We use about 1100 gal in propane for the year. And that's using the 40' bi fold door a decent amount

99GreenCummins · 11-20-2013, 07:26 PM

Concrete is already there, if I was pouring concrete it would get heated floors.

What's the cost compared to forced induction? I had never thought of it, our fairground buildings have them, they work well. Are there thermostats available for them?

Cummins2000 · 11-20-2013, 11:16 PM

Also interested in this, my Dad's 40x40 insulated shop needs a permanent solution. Right now using a tiny 220V heater that keeps it about 10*C in -15* weather. Not good for electricity bill...

99GreenCummins · 11-26-2013, 09:27 AM

Finally pictures
outside:

Inside: don't mind the mess, haven't got my work bench out here yet to organize it.

CumminNotRunnin · 11-26-2013, 09:32 AM

Subbed also interested in this.

zstroken · 11-26-2013, 09:42 AM

Is there any insulation in the block wall?

99GreenCummins · 11-26-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by zstroken

Is there any insulation in the block wall?

Negative. Wish there was. 1956 is when it was constructed.

oldestof11 · 11-26-2013, 10:07 AM

I x3643883 radiant heat. Our shop at work and the firehouse both have them on thermostats.

nasty 2005 · 11-26-2013, 10:13 AM

I have radiant heat in both of my shops and love it,its definitely the way to go screw floor heat!

rawdog · 11-26-2013, 10:14 AM

Get yourself a 95% forced air furnace, put a plenum on it with dome taps and be done. Cheapest and easiest

JoshH · 11-26-2013, 10:54 AM

I just bought a hanging gas heater yesterday. With a thermal output of 324,000 BTU/hr, I think it should heat up my 40x50 shop just fine.

zstroken · 11-26-2013, 11:53 AM

Folks mention the radiant heat, and personally 40-50 degrees is fine for me to work in. What I don't like being cold is the tools. I had always heard the radiant heat warms a person, and not the objects.

This year I am just running a 1500w electric heater, will see how it does compared to the pellet stove.

Meyers Farms · 11-27-2013, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by zstroken

Folks mention the radiant heat, and personally 40-50 degrees is fine for me to work in. What I don't like being cold is the tools. I had always heard the radiant heat warms a person, and not the objects.

This year I am just running a 1500w electric heater, will see how it does compared to the pellet stove.

I agree with you about cold tools. Although, radiant heat heats the person and objects. If your tools are laying out they will be just as warm as you. Same idea as laying your tools in the sun. I personally love it.

The other benefit over forced air is recovery time when opening doors. If the doors never get opened its obviously not as big of a deal.

11-20-2013, 03:27 PM	#1
99GreenCummins Name: 99GreenCummins Title: That guy.... Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Marietta, Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,387	Let's talk shop heat What's everyone using for shop heat? We bought a new farm last winter and am now starting to design the inside of the current building to be my shop. Its a 3 bay 50x30 building. The shop part will be the lower level of the building. 1 wall is against a hill and the 2 sides are half covered from dirt. In our old shop we used a old greenhouse heater. I want gas fed hanging type heater. Will try to get a picture before dark since pictures are worth a thousand words. __________________ Todd Some farm trucks 2014 Ram 3500 19.5s, aisin 1999 Ram 2500,6 spd, typical mods

11-20-2013, 06:02 PM	#7
Meyers Farms Name: Meyers Farms Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SW Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,508	We just went from gas fed forced air to gas fed overhead radiant heat. There is no comparison, the radiant heat is awesome. Radiant heat is just like the sun it heats objects not the air. With radiant heat a higher ceiling is preferred to let the heater cover a larger area. If no concrete is poured yet, radiant floor heat would be my vote. Radiant floor heat can be fed by a wood fired boiler if that is an option for you. __________________ 2013 Ford F-450 6.7 Auto, 4x4, Crew Cab

11-20-2013, 06:07 PM	#8
Shawdrainage Name: Shawdrainage Title: Shaw Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Wapakoneta, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,617	Heated concrete floor. We did it in our 60x80x16. It's expensive, but it was worth it. We use about 1100 gal in propane for the year. And that's using the 40' bi fold door a decent amount __________________ 2016 Ram Powerwagon...... Stock for now 2006 Dodge Powerwagon "REHAB" Hot Street Puller. A whole truckload of SECERT SQUIRREL stuff, but still a small block HEMI!!! 1974 Dodge Powerwagon... Undecided roller.

11-20-2013, 07:26 PM	#9
99GreenCummins Name: 99GreenCummins Title: That guy.... Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Marietta, Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,387	Concrete is already there, if I was pouring concrete it would get heated floors. What's the cost compared to forced induction? I had never thought of it, our fairground buildings have them, they work well. Are there thermostats available for them? __________________ Todd Some farm trucks 2014 Ram 3500 19.5s, aisin 1999 Ram 2500,6 spd, typical mods

11-20-2013, 11:16 PM	#10
Cummins2000 Name: Cummins2000 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Alberta Member`s Gallery Posts: 133	Also interested in this, my Dad's 40x40 insulated shop needs a permanent solution. Right now using a tiny 220V heater that keeps it about 10C in -15 weather. Not good for electricity bill... __________________ 2000 Dodge 2500, ECLB NV4500 1990 VW Jetta 1.6 N/A Diesel, 5 speed

11-26-2013, 09:27 AM	#11
99GreenCummins Name: 99GreenCummins Title: That guy.... Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Marietta, Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,387	Finally pictures outside: Inside: don't mind the mess, haven't got my work bench out here yet to organize it. __________________ Todd Some farm trucks 2014 Ram 3500 19.5s, aisin 1999 Ram 2500,6 spd, typical mods

11-26-2013, 09:32 AM	#12
CumminNotRunnin Name: CumminNotRunnin Title: Internet Mechanic Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: North West, NJ Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,090	Subbed also interested in this. __________________ Got Er Cummin "A business that makes nothing but money, is a poor business." -Henry Ford

11-26-2013, 09:42 AM	#13
zstroken Name: zstroken Title: For $$$ your name here Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Michigan(by the lake) Member`s Gallery Posts: 23,151	Is there any insulation in the block wall? __________________ 2008 4x4 Megacab, 68RFE 97 Dodge gone.... 24V P-Pump Mafia member #1(retired) Thanks to Mumau Diesel, Goerend Transmission, Northeast Diesel Service!

11-26-2013, 10:07 AM	#15
oldestof11 Name: oldestof11 Title: Drag racer Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dixon, IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,084	I x3643883 radiant heat. Our shop at work and the firehouse both have them on thermostats. __________________ Jon

11-26-2013, 10:13 AM	#16
nasty 2005 Name: nasty 2005 Title: Cummins Tech. Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: S. Minnesota Member`s Gallery Posts: 301	I have radiant heat in both of my shops and love it,its definitely the way to go screw floor heat! __________________ 11' CCSB, MCC by Anarchy, AFE, Revmax, Flopro, Applied Performance Products, Caltracs, Leveled, 35's Sold-95' ECLB R.I.P-05' QCSB

11-26-2013, 10:14 AM	#17
rawdog Name: rawdog Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,196	Get yourself a 95% forced air furnace, put a plenum on it with dome taps and be done. Cheapest and easiest __________________

11-26-2013, 10:54 AM	#18
JoshH Name: JoshH Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tyler, Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 648	I just bought a hanging gas heater yesterday. With a thermal output of 324,000 BTU/hr, I think it should heat up my 40x50 shop just fine. __________________ 2006 Silverado 2500HD

11-26-2013, 11:53 AM	#19
zstroken Name: zstroken Title: For $$$ your name here Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Michigan(by the lake) Member`s Gallery Posts: 23,151	Folks mention the radiant heat, and personally 40-50 degrees is fine for me to work in. What I don't like being cold is the tools. I had always heard the radiant heat warms a person, and not the objects. This year I am just running a 1500w electric heater, will see how it does compared to the pellet stove. __________________ 2008 4x4 Megacab, 68RFE 97 Dodge gone.... 24V P-Pump Mafia member #1(retired) Thanks to Mumau Diesel, Goerend Transmission, Northeast Diesel Service!