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10-29-2017, 10:19 AM
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Name: SixOhh
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Carlie / Thuren Coil Springs / better shocks
My Front end is entirely Carlie minus oem springs with 2" coil spacers.
I always wanted carlie front springs but the smallest they offer are 3". I am eager to get rid of my OEM springs and the junk spacers but i like my ride height. 3" 'springs would put me 1" higher in the front and i sure as hell dont want that "bro dozer" look a.k.a. "cali lean" (gheyy).
I am now leaning twords the Thuren 2" coils from CJC. has anyone run them? the price is right and that would leave my ride height where i want it so i can leave the rear end alone.
I also have out of the box bilstein 5100's in the front. carlie offered what i think was a specially valved 7100 but now that are saying they only recommend them for hemi trucks for some reason. With that being said, i am looking at spending the 1200 bones on the fox back country 2.0's
Dodge 3 Shock Packages - Ram Shock Packages - Dodge Ram 2500/3500 - Products
I'm not normally one to spend that much on shocks but its a 9 hour drive to location and then typical lease roads. Im sure just switching out the coils and getting rig of the spacers will be a night and day difference but while im in there doing springs i figure why now.
Anyone who has run any of the aforementioned products please chime in. I guess im really wondering if the shocks are worth the extra coin. This truck was brand new to me in 07 and i never plan on getting rid of it.
Thuren 2 Soft-Ride Performance Leveling Coils Dodge Ram 2500/3500
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10-29-2017, 02:48 PM
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Name: sootie
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the value is there i the shocks for sure. i can say first hand, the carli valved foxes will be hands down a night and day difference. Changing the coils wont net you much of a ride difference, if any, if the shocks aren't changed. Now i would caution you, carli valves their shocks to match their spring rates. I cannot say the results will be as awesome with a different manufacturers coils but it will still be an improvement for sure. for best results, do carli coils and carli valved shocks.
Carli has mostly stopped using the bilsteins in the diesel applications for quality reasons.
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10-29-2017, 03:44 PM
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Name: BlackasCoal
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Get the best shock you can afford with them that will give you the best results.
I know you are only looking for 2” but If you spend a lot of time on unimproved roads and wouldn’t mind the extra 1” to take you to 3” look full rear leafs. When I went to carli LT leafs that was the biggest wow change I’ve done to improve ride.
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10-31-2017, 07:24 PM
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Name: Trevdogg67
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Just make sure you match thuren shocks to thuren springs.
Or Carli shocks to Carli springs
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11-01-2017, 01:24 PM
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Name: jimbo486
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Leveled my dad's 2006 a few years back with Carli's 3" springs from their leveling kit. Already had the same Bilstein 5100s they use as well. Once back on the ground, I think the front end sits 3/4” higher in the front. Looks great!
Stock springs
Carli 3" springs.
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11-02-2017, 08:21 AM
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Name: SixOhh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevdogg67
Just make sure you match thuren shocks to thuren springs.
Or Carli shocks to Carli springs
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i looked at the thuren overland shocks but they sure dont look like anything special... am i missing something?
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11-02-2017, 08:42 AM
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Name: SixOhh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackasCoal
Get the best shock you can afford with them that will give you the best results.
I know you are only looking for 2” but If you spend a lot of time on unimproved roads and wouldn’t mind the extra 1” to take you to 3” look full rear leafs. When I went to carli LT leafs that was the biggest wow change I’ve done to improve ride.
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I don't mind spending a little on shocks, but the jump from the FOX to KING's is insane. i cant justify the kings... no way.
im not going to lie, i am dead set on the thuren coils now, but now i am torn on shocks.
money USED to be no object, but a 1 year old daughter and another on the way sure changes things!!!
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Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
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11-02-2017, 10:24 AM
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Name: zunkerduramax
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I have the thuren 2 inch coils and his cheaper overland shocks on my 2012. It seems to ride a little better but wish i would have boughten the better shocks. The 2'' lift is perfect tho.
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11-02-2017, 01:43 PM
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Name: SixOhh
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thanks for sharing, i really feel like those shocks are garbage. if i was going to take the super cheap route i would keep the 5100's or buy a new pair of fronts only.
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they honestly looks like painted monroe junk.
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Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
H-Town Off-Road
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11-02-2017, 05:15 PM
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Name: Howling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SixOhh
thanks for sharing, i really feel like those shocks are garbage. if i was going to take the super cheap route i would keep the 5100's or buy a new pair of fronts only.
THUREN OVERLAND SHOCKS - PRODUCTS
they honestly looks like painted monroe junk.
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I run 3" Thuren springs on both my 96 and 06 along with adjustable track bar . 06 is running Bilstein 5100 and Thuren Overland on the 96.
Thuren recently released 2.0 King ifp shocks that they say are targeted more for street and the 2.5 is better suited for off road.
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11-03-2017, 02:51 PM
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Name: SixOhh
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im so glad you pointed that out! i never saw those before when shopping.
that IFP 2.0 is in my price range and seems more suited for my driving conditions.
mostly highway driving and some slow speed washed roads has oilfield life written all over it.
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07' Silver 2500 5.9 4x4 LWB
Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
H-Town Off-Road
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11-03-2017, 08:29 PM
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Name: okie18
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The overlands are just a regular nitrogen shock that has valving to match thuren's coils. Your paying for the valving when you buy overlands basically.
I'd roll with the ifp's that howling mentioned for what you're using the truck for.
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12-27-2017, 03:00 PM
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Name: SixOhh
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i was about to order them on the next paycheck.... grrrrrr
1994-2013 KING 2.0 IFP F/R SET
Product Code: TF-K20IFP-9413FR
$980.00
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Availability: OUT OF STOCK UNTIL MID FEBRUARY!!!
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Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
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12-27-2017, 07:27 PM
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Name: spooled05
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I got 3" carli coils and 4" full atlas leaf packs in the rear with fox 2.0 shocks . Everyone compliments the ride and the rougher the road the better it gets imho.
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02-28-2018, 06:44 PM
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Name: SixOhh
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looks like the IFP's are back in stock, AND you can order fronts or rears separately now.
this is good for me because i want to fronts now and do rears when i get leafs.
1994-2013 KING 2.0 IFP - SHOCKS - COMPONENTS - 2003-13 2500 / 2003-12 3500 - DODGE RAM - PRODUCTS
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Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
H-Town Off-Road
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03-01-2018, 06:23 AM
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Name: Stormin08
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i run thuren 2" coils with a 5100...the shock at normal speed is slightly jarring, at speeds the truck rides great, one exception is that I do not run sway bars and it can seem a little boaty at times. it isn't too bad, nor is it uncontrollable but it is noticeable. I am considering the overland shock and reinstalling a front sway.
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03-01-2018, 07:17 AM
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Name: Cozze44
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Has anyone ever happened to throw these shocks on a dyno? I got rid of my shock dyno a couple years ago so I can't do it at my place. Just curious to see the numbers on these shocks.
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03-03-2018, 03:30 AM
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Name: colin91
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Personally I’d go with Thuren. Carli is not a bad company at all but I like Thuren overalll. Whatever you do get the springs and shocks (whatever size) from the same company so the sting rates and valving match up together. Don ( the owner at Thuren) is super helpful if you give them a call. He can line you out for whatever you jeed
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03-10-2018, 12:37 PM
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Name: SixOhh
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Thanks bud. Noted.
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Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
H-Town Off-Road
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05-24-2018, 05:59 PM
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Name: SixOhh
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these bad boys are on the way...
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i went with rear springs first because i need to see the overall lift in the rear after they settle in before ordering front coils. i still want just 2" in the front and not 3".
these rig roads are killing me throwing my ass end all over the place. i called CJC and talked to a guy that has them on the same truck and he pretty much sold me on them v.s. just the add a leaf pack that removes the overload.
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Goerend 48re-csp5/EFI- T&C Mild Cp3-F1 Apex 7.5 -S369sxe Amsoil
Coolant Bypass -Airdog-D&J- Hamilton 188/220 -AFE-ARP Opti-Lube
H-Town Off-Road
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