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Old 12-05-2022, 06:20 PM   #1
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P7100 Adjustable Timing Gear Questions

Anyone that has used an adjustable P7100 pump timing gear, I would like to hear if you had any issues or were you completely satisfied?

And if you tried more than one brand, which one was best Quality.

Are there any known quality, reliability, fitment to the taper issues?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 12-06-2022, 06:23 AM   #2
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There are two styles.

The pin style uses a small bolt (like 3/16) to secure the timing to the right spot on the gear, then six 3/8 bolts that pinch the gear to the hub.

The puck style uses a large offset puck that inserts into a hole machined into the gear, and bolts to the hub using a 3/8 bolt. There are four other 3/8 bolts that pinch the gear to the hub through the slotted sections.

The advantage to the pin is that you can rotate the pump 360* separate to the the engine, meaning if you wanted to, you can put your engine on TDC, put your timing gauge in it, and just turn the pump to the desired reading then find the pin hole that lines up, and bolt it down. The disadvantage is that the little pin likes to strip out, not line up perfect, or shear off if the other bolts aren't torqued enough. I personally have taken to getting the timing where I want with this style gear, then installing the small bolt loosely, then tightening the other bolts to torque, then torque the small bolt. It is a little annoying but its easier to adjust since you never run out of adjustability.

The advantage to the puck style is that the timing is absolute, there is no way the bolt for the puck is going to shear off and timing would slip. You get a solid hold. The disadvantage is that you only have about 9* of adjustability without removing the outside gear itself. This isn't a huge deal, since if you jump a tooth you gain 10*, but annoying if you have a front cover that the gear doesn't fit through, as you'd have to pull the whole cover if you wanted to adjust your timing more than 9*. It is also sometimes annoying trying to find the puck that fits correctly, and additionally you have a whole stringer of pucks that you need to keep track of.

All things considered I think I prefer the puck style, I just like how the 3/8 bolt seems more secure than the little pin. That being said I currently have a pin style, and it isn't an issue, it just happened to come with the pump I have. No matter which one you get make sure you use loc-tite on the bolts and torque them down. If they begin to loosen it will eat up the timing cover and fall out.
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Old 12-08-2022, 07:07 AM   #3
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bigstacks95, Thanks for that information.
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Old 12-16-2022, 12:47 PM   #4
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I'm may be bias but after struggling with inconveniences of the puck style gears and slipped timing on the 3/8 bolted pin style gears, we developed the PDD timing gear and I challenge you to find an easier gear to adjust that will handle the load of a big 16mm pump without slipping.

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