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10-06-2015, 09:12 AM
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Name: JL Builders
Title: On a quest for more power
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Our class runs a 24in hitch. Still went through 4 sets of R&P. Taking 500lbs off of the front won't save the rear.
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6.7 sled puller, cracked motor in half.... Nothing to show for it. But ready to try again.
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10-06-2015, 09:14 AM
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Name: Rich dzl
Title: 12v guru
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Remove map groove = -200hp there's your fix
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10-06-2015, 09:23 AM
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Name: Rich dzl
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I guess a lot guys like giving turbo shop big money to change a map groove ..
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10-06-2015, 10:12 AM
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Name: ILLINOISRAM
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Has anybody actually priced these cheap drop in rear axles that's gonna save the class? How about we just go to a smooth bore cover and drop 2-300 hpcost less than 500$ for a new cover and be good to go.
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99 DODGE 2500 P-PUMP 24v. Hamilton valvetrain, Northeast Diesel fuel and alot of other parts put together.
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10-06-2015, 11:45 AM
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Name: SHughes
Title: Too much is never enough!
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Some of you guys are trying to make too much sense!
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Originally Posted by Joesixpack
That statement just reduced the collective IQ of the entire forum.
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10-06-2015, 11:54 AM
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Name: jones95runner
Title: Too Much Time
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2.6 should be tube chasis and fiberglass bodies(you can build a tube frame for less than $1000 and surly you can build a fiberglass body for less that $1000 in fiberglass and glue).
Already having to buy new turbo make it a 3.6 smooth bore as they all want more power anyways.
Odl? Why not its cheaper than oem stuff
Since we gave you odl your going to buy six new mud tires anyways so why don't we just make it cut tires and be done with it.
You guys want real pulling trucks let's make them pulling trucks.
Last edited by jones95runner; 10-06-2015 at 12:07 PM.
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10-06-2015, 12:03 PM
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Name: ILLINOISRAM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jones95runner
2.6 should be tube chasis and fiberglass bodies(you can build a tube frame for less than $1000 and surly you can build a fiberglass body for less that $1000 in fiberglass and glue).
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I'll take complete bullshiite for 500$ Alex. Haha
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99 DODGE 2500 P-PUMP 24v. Hamilton valvetrain, Northeast Diesel fuel and alot of other parts put together.
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10-06-2015, 12:14 PM
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Name: jones95runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ILLINOISRAM
I'll take complete bullshiite for 500$ Alex. Haha
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WHAT? Sounds good to me lol
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10-06-2015, 12:22 PM
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Name: ILLINOISRAM
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If that's all it cost you can't afford not to do it. And since that's about a 4th of what I got priced for a open rear, somwthing don't add up.
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99 DODGE 2500 P-PUMP 24v. Hamilton valvetrain, Northeast Diesel fuel and alot of other parts put together.
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10-06-2015, 12:30 PM
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Name: jones95runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ILLINOISRAM
If that's all it cost you can't afford not to do it. And since that's about a 4th of what I got priced for a open rear, somwthing don't add up.
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6k+? Not counting another 1k+ in wheels depending on what hub setup you use?
There are some neat ways to do cheap rear axles and alum wheels if you get creative. But nothing cheap about making a phone call and a setup showing up at your doorstep.
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10-06-2015, 12:40 PM
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Name: Valair1
Title: Valair Inc. Clutch
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Yeah that's about 10K
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10-06-2015, 12:42 PM
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Name: ILLINOISRAM
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Yeah. Exactly.
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99 DODGE 2500 P-PUMP 24v. Hamilton valvetrain, Northeast Diesel fuel and alot of other parts put together.
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10-06-2015, 12:57 PM
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Name: jones95runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ILLINOISRAM
Yeah. Exactly.
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Speaking from experience. If open rears are allowed but odl is not. I believe I'd invest in some good auto gov pumps with 5k springs in them to save the engines. Because open rear IS NOT the fix all I promise.
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10-06-2015, 06:25 PM
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Name: 700rmk
Title: Green Behind the Ears
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20-145 800-1000$
Short side axle shaft 150$
Billit hubs 1900$
4 real wheels 1200$, whats that come to one year,s worth of ring and pinions? It can be done cheeper to if you use stock hubs. I can't figure out why any 2.6 puller would ***** about a open rear
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10-06-2015, 06:26 PM
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Name: Jhillbros
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Open driveline needs to be allowed to save on the breakage.
3" smooth bore will not decrease the HP, your information is incorrect there.
The 2.5 trucks are running single tires and still having R&P issues, so single tires is not the fix either.
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10-06-2015, 07:28 PM
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Name: SavageBeast
Title: Sled dragger
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Okay guys I might be way out in left field with my train of thought here but nobody ever likes to go backwards and reduce horsepower so why not get rid of the protrusion rule and bump the power up more by being able to run bigger turbos. Right now the trucks are in the 1200-1400hp range which really puts the power down when the transfer hits then destroys stuff but if you bump the power up another 200hp with a bigger non protrusion turbo then the rpms won't drop down and you'll pretty much blow the tires off at the end instead of lugging down and blowing things apart. Ring and pinions will still break occasionally but not near the way they are now.
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10-06-2015, 08:04 PM
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Name: jones95runner
Title: Too Much Time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SavageBeast
Okay guys I might be way out in left field with my train of thought here but nobody ever likes to go backwards and reduce horsepower so why not get rid of the protrusion rule and bump the power up more by being able to run bigger turbos. Right now the trucks are in the 1200-1400hp range which really puts the power down when the transfer hits then destroys stuff but if you bump the power up another 200hp with a bigger non protrusion turbo then the rpms won't drop down and you'll pretty much blow the tires off at the end instead of lugging down and blowing things apart. Ring and pinions will still break occasionally but not near the way they are now.
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Combine 2.6 and 3.6
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10-06-2015, 08:06 PM
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Name: Smokem
Title: Turbler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhillbros
3" smooth bore will not decrease the HP, your information is incorrect there.
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You may want to be careful saying something is incorrect, when you don't know all the facts.
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10-06-2015, 08:13 PM
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#79
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Name: Jhillbros
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You have your opinion and I have mine.
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10-06-2015, 08:17 PM
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Name: ILLINOISRAM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 700rmk
20-145 800-1000$
Short side axle shaft 150$
Billit hubs 1900$
4 real wheels 1200$, whats that come to one year,s worth of ring and pinions? It can be done cheeper to if you use stock hubs. I can't figure out why any 2.6 puller would ***** about a open rear
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I can't believe somebody would rather spend 5000$ than to rewrite the turbo rule to eliminate these big map grooves, cut power back by running the old covers most everybody Allready has on a shelf. And if you don't want to give up power, then there is a Indiana, bob, Illinois 3.0 class that allows open rear ends.
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