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05-27-2017, 12:57 PM
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Name: M249cummins
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Possible ih block cast mark?
I believe this motor is a 96-97 12v, building it for a 800hp puller. While cleaning it I noticed this mark, it's an IH block correct? Also are England rods different in the manufacturing process than USA rods?
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05-27-2017, 03:44 PM
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Name: Financial Mistake
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Had this exact same block in my 98 12 valve. IH block and England rods, two oil return ports as well.
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05-27-2017, 03:46 PM
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Name: Financial Mistake
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Curious about the England rods as well, as I still have them and if they aren't terrible I'd like to use them if I ever get around to building another short block, as $3000 for billet is just never going to be in the budget.
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05-27-2017, 09:47 PM
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Name: bigstacks95
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The England, USA, Brazil, and Mexico rods are all pretty much the same. I have heard the Japan rods aren't quite as good but still 1000+ HP capable.
That is a USA/IH casting block, good find! They say they are stronger with more nickle content. I have blown up both USA and Brazil blocks
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05-27-2017, 10:14 PM
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Name: 97rada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigstacks95
The England, USA, Brazil, and Mexico rods are all pretty much the same. I have heard the Japan rods aren't quite as good but still 1000+ HP capable.
That is a USA/IH casting block, good find! They say they are stronger with more nickle content. I have blown up both USA and Brazil blocks
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What power were you?
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05-27-2017, 10:24 PM
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Name: Exodus
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I just build one of those IH blocks myself. Came with a cracked brazil head. Had to find a USA head to match the block.
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05-27-2017, 10:57 PM
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Name: bigstacks95
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What power were you?
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I burned a camshaft into a block from too much spring pressure on a USA block, then did the same on a Brazil block before discovering what the problem was.
Currently running on year 4 of my USA cast IH block at roughly 1000ish HP in my 2.6/3.0 truck. Filled, bored .040 over
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05-28-2017, 12:06 AM
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Name: M249cummins
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unfortunately I got it with a brand spanking new head that is a Chinese reman, has about 10 minutes of runtime on it. didn't come with the original head.
Taking it to Wagler Comp before I head to work. torque plate hone the cylinders, deck the block if needed, line hone the mains, remove the intake shelf off the head, o-ring the head.
people seem to be iffy about using a Chinese head but its what I got, its new and I have no actual proof why not to use it, I'm going to use it.
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05-28-2017, 06:36 AM
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Name: jasonc
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A buddy of mine ran a cheap china head for about a year on a strong running street truck 12v, he blew the head gasket and pulled it, I know they all crack but that head was the worse I've seen. Almost looked like shattered glass around the injector holes to the seats.
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05-28-2017, 07:26 AM
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Name: jedeka
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I would recommend installing cam bushings all the way thru the block.
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05-28-2017, 08:44 AM
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Name: M249cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jedeka
I would recommend installing cam bushings all the way thru the block.
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I thought about it, still considering it.
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