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04-03-2017, 08:35 AM
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Name: dangerous06
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96 build
Picked up a 96 has no turbo or exhaust system was wondering what would be a good set up? It ran but the guy took the twins off. so it still has big injectors and pump work done. Would a 64 be enough to make it happy not looking for big power it's a first truck for a 16 year old don't want to kill him!
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04-03-2017, 08:43 AM
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Name: zfaylor
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Actual injector size, goals, and what supporting mods are done would help.
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04-03-2017, 08:45 AM
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Name: dangerous06
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Those are a mystery I know it hazes really good at idle and will black out a 4 lane freeway! But besides that it's a guess!
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E.D. 66-74-091, T-4 exhaust, 2 Micron filter pre CP3, EFI, S&B intake, ARP 625 head studs, 182-214 Hamilton Cam,springs and push rods,40% injectors, Banks Intercooler, T&C CP-3 & PRV, Built
48RE, 5" exhaust,Carrillo rods, Pacbrake!
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04-03-2017, 08:50 AM
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Name: BRE
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Originally Posted by dangerous06
Those are a mystery I know it hazes really good at idle and will black out a 4 lane freeway! But besides that it's a guess!
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Then that's exactly what our turbo suggestions would be... a guess.
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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04-03-2017, 08:53 AM
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Name: dangerous06
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Great well just want to keep the boy alive first truck is always a crash truck! So a stock 351 it will be! 
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E.D. 66-74-091, T-4 exhaust, 2 Micron filter pre CP3, EFI, S&B intake, ARP 625 head studs, 182-214 Hamilton Cam,springs and push rods,40% injectors, Banks Intercooler, T&C CP-3 & PRV, Built
48RE, 5" exhaust,Carrillo rods, Pacbrake!
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04-03-2017, 09:49 AM
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Name: YoungDiesel27
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Put stock injectors back in.
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04-03-2017, 10:04 AM
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Name: Highwayman
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dangerous06
Picked up a 96 has no turbo or exhaust system
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I know it hazes really good at idle and will black out a 4 lane freeway!
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Hmmmmmmm... strange.
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04-03-2017, 11:33 AM
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Name: Stox5225
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Easy enough to check though. Just pull them and find a REPUTABLE injector shop and have them pop test them as well. What BAR they "pop" at will tell you about what timing to run. I actually just learned this. I got a set of injectors from PDD that are 282 BAR. Stock is around 240-260. Every ten BAR RETARDS they timing a degree. So I set my truck to stock timing and I couldn't even reach 2K RPM.
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04-03-2017, 12:55 PM
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Name: dangerous06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Highwayman
Hmmmmmmm... strange. |
Words from the previous owner!
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E.D. 66-74-091, T-4 exhaust, 2 Micron filter pre CP3, EFI, S&B intake, ARP 625 head studs, 182-214 Hamilton Cam,springs and push rods,40% injectors, Banks Intercooler, T&C CP-3 & PRV, Built
48RE, 5" exhaust,Carrillo rods, Pacbrake!
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04-03-2017, 01:04 PM
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Name: biggy238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dangerous06
Those are a mystery I know it hazes really good at idle and will black out a 4 lane freeway! But besides that it's a guess!
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They tend to do that with no turbo.....
We really do need an intended use estimate to give appropriate answers.
A generic answer is a nice 62mm, sticks, DV's, low 20's for timing, AFC mods, 4kgsk, HG and studs. Should run 450hp cleanly depending on tuning.
Mine on a 64mm, 7mm DV's, DDP4 injectors, 23° timing, did 499 at the wheels 575 calculated.
1996 built September 95
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04-03-2017, 01:07 PM
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Name: BRE
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16 year old kid?
Stock and maybe below stock with how most kids are now.
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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04-03-2017, 04:28 PM
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Name: SCHMITTY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stox5225
Easy enough to check though. Just pull them and find a REPUTABLE injector shop and have them pop test them as well. What BAR they "pop" at will tell you about what timing to run. I actually just learned this. I got a set of injectors from PDD that are 282 BAR. Stock is around 240-260. Every ten BAR RETARDS they timing a degree. So I set my truck to stock timing and I couldn't even reach 2K RPM.
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Really ? I went from some 5x.010s to 5x.016s popped at 290 with the timing set at 19* with the dial indicator method. Getting ready to pin time it and roll the motor back 10*.
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04-03-2017, 06:24 PM
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Name: Stox5225
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Originally Posted by SCHMITTY
Really ? I went from some 5x.010s to 5x.016s popped at 290 with the timing set at 19* with the dial indicator method. Getting ready to pin time it and roll the motor back 10*.
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Yeah there was a thread I saw on here about everything 12v and he broke down pop pressure. Based on what I read, higher PSI equates to lower timing and visa versa.
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04-03-2017, 06:39 PM
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Name: Smokem
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stox5225
Stock is around 240-260. Every ten BAR RETARDS they timing a degree. So I set my truck to stock timing and I couldn't even reach 2K RPM.
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Do you think if you keep repeating this it will become true?
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04-03-2017, 07:10 PM
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Name: Stox5225
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Do you think if you keep repeating this it will become true?
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Either that or my pump decided to retime itself to lower than stock. What are you referring to?
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04-03-2017, 09:42 PM
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Name: Red Sleeper
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This crap just doesn't end.
Can we bring back the "ban for the day" voting?
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04-03-2017, 09:51 PM
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Name: zfaylor
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If you couple lower pop pressure injectors with a big turbo that sucks the exhaust out of the engine you gain a lot of horsepressurez. Of course you guys already know this. It is openly available info on compd.
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04-03-2017, 11:02 PM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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Once again it appears these are so desparately needed.
Mark.
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04-04-2017, 05:30 AM
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Name: RacinDuallie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dangerous06
Picked up a 96 has no turbo or exhaust system was wondering what would be a good set up? It ran but the guy took the twins off. so it still has big injectors and pump work done. Would a 64 be enough to make it happy not looking for big power it's a first truck for a 16 year old don't want to kill him!
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Honestly for a 16 year old, back to stock, stock injectors stock turbo.
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04-04-2017, 09:27 AM
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Name: zfaylor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RacinDuallie
Honestly for a 16 year old, back to stock, stock injectors stock turbo.
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This^^
HX35 with the gate functioning and stock injectors. He is 16 so he/she is probably just wanting it obnoxious and smokey.
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