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10-28-2018, 07:31 PM
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Name: Boosted Bulldog
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24 Valve Stand Alone Wiring out of an FL50
Hello,
I am new to the site. That being said I am looking for some help with stand alone wiring for a 24 Valve. I bought an FL50 cab and chassis and going to transplant this into a 1948 Mack EF. I do have a Blue Chip Diesel FMS system that came with the truck. Any help or suggestions on wiring would be great.
Thanks,
Brent
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10-29-2018, 11:09 AM
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Name: joefarmer
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Welcome! Cool truck! the 24 valve wiring generally isn't too difficult, but is there a reason to avoid using a p-pump?
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10-29-2018, 04:30 PM
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Name: Boosted Bulldog
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Thanks for welcoming me on board Joe Farmer. No not really, I have the "dead pedal" symptom. So it will need a new / rebuilt pump. If I could find the necessary parts to change it over, would this be the best bet? My father and I bought the truck some years ago and we were going to rebuild the flat head Continental. He passed away and I thought I need to get this Mack on the road. So here I am.
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10-29-2018, 06:35 PM
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Name: J-Pipes
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I'd the vp is already bad. Then I'd say the p-pump swap is definitely the way to go.
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10-30-2018, 11:29 AM
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Name: joefarmer
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I'd definitely swap to the ppump in that case. The ppump needs very little wiring to function properly. My '48 with a ppump has the shutoff solenoid (3 wires) and alternator voltage regulator (3 wires) wired for the engine to be a weekend driver.
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10-30-2018, 11:37 AM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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Personally, I'd steer clear of P-Pump converting it, since most of the lines manufactured for doing this have a propensity for cracking, leaving you stranded with a one-off part you can't source just anywhere.
Nothing wrong with putting on a new/reman VP44 and giving it a good lift pump, so it doesn't fail.
The Medium duty trucks don't have nearly the ECM failures a Dodge pick up does, either.
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11-01-2018, 07:48 PM
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Name: Boosted Bulldog
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Looks like I need to really do some homework here. I appreciate everyone's thoughts, if you have more please feel free to add. Brent
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11-02-2018, 05:55 AM
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Name: jasonc
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I'd VE pump swap it. You can run an adapter and use the stock VP lines.
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11-02-2018, 03:46 PM
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Name: Yotadzl
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Making a vp stand alone is pretty easy. It's probably even easier with the medium duty ECM. The Dodge only requires power to something like 5 or 6 ECM and pump circuits to get it to fire and run. There's a good youtube video that explains hot wiring it. Search stand alone vp44. Then its just a matter of mounting the throttle pedal assembly. Not a big deal. Or just swap it to a p-pump and forget about the electronics B.S.
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11-03-2018, 07:08 PM
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Name: Boosted Bulldog
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Thanks guys a lot of great knowledge from all.
Brent
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01-30-2019, 07:54 PM
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Name: Boosted Bulldog
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48 Mack EF Update
Well I took Jeff's advice and went with the 12 Valve. I am gaining on the project. Rear air ride is finished. Working on steering box etc. now.
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