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11-19-2017, 08:21 PM
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Name: 97rada
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Single gt55 on a 12v
Has anyone tried this in the drag racing world? I very much enjoy compounds but they have a high price with them
When you start wanting a 5 second 8th. Truck is still a 5.9 and I don't have a problem using nitrous to get on it and an AMS to carry shaft speed out of the hole. Any Info would be good.
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tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
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Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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11-19-2017, 08:34 PM
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Name: jones95runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97rada
Has anyone tried this in the drag racing world? I very much enjoy compounds but they have a high price with them
When you start wanting a 5 second 8th. Truck is still a 5.9 and I don't have a problem using nitrous to get on it and an AMS to carry shaft speed out of the hole. Any Info would be good.
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Not drag racing, but we did 1525hp on a gtx5533r with a smooth bore plug in it. It was a 91mm billet 10blade. With a 1.24 housing. On a 5.9 13mm pump and Hamilton head, very mild build. It was very easy to drive out of the hole. I don't think you would have any problem at all running it with good supporting mods.
Also had a friend that ran a 94mm gt55 forced turbo on the street with a 1.00 hosing.
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11-19-2017, 08:42 PM
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Name: 97rada
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Truck currently is a 5.9 with a worked stock head and 13mm pump ect. It will be getting rods this winter but is still a cast piston engine.
Is that the BB version ?
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tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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11-20-2017, 06:15 AM
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Name: jones95runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97rada
Truck currently is a 5.9 with a worked stock head and 13mm pump ect. It will be getting rods this winter but is still a cast piston engine.
Is that the BB version ?
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Yes was a bb. Ours is a cast piston, stock rod, cast cam wet block motor. With over 120 passes on the same block. Lol
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11-20-2017, 06:24 AM
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Name: Cummins12Club
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We have a Precision Pro Mod charger on our 12v. basically the same thing as a GT55. I cant say i have good data for you yet but once its lit ive never fallen off of it and it feels like it hauls the mail.
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11-20-2017, 06:35 AM
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Name: 97rada
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Originally Posted by jones95runner
Yes was a bb. Ours is a cast piston, stock rod, cast cam wet block motor. With over 120 passes on the same block. Lol
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You give me hope that my engine won't kill itself. My only change is a billet cam and rods. Anyone have a hami head laying around
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tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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11-20-2017, 07:04 AM
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Name: zstroken
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Originally Posted by 97rada
You give me hope that my engine won't kill itself. My only change is a billet cam and rods. Anyone have a hami head laying around
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I think that brings up the old discussion of sled pulling versus drag racing, and that the shifts on a drag racer are brutal things that are torque and rapid RPM change sensitive(Rods and Cam driving a big pump come to mind)
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11-20-2017, 08:33 AM
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Name: 97rada
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I think that brings up the old discussion of sled pulling versus drag racing, and that the shifts on a drag racer are brutal things that are torque and rapid RPM change sensitive(Rods and Cam driving a big pump come to mind)
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I am a firm believer in the drag racing side being harder on the engine. That spike in cylinder pressure and TQ from an 1100 rpm drop really can be tough on parts.
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tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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11-20-2017, 10:14 AM
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Name: jasonc
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What is AMS?
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11-20-2017, 10:26 AM
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Name: jones95runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97rada
I am a firm believer in the drag racing side being harder on the engine. That spike in cylinder pressure and TQ from an 1100 rpm drop really can be tough on parts.
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I agree 100%. But it also will come back to where you run the motor. If you want to turn if 5k and shift at 4 would be a a totally different thing that 2500-4k shifts.
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11-20-2017, 10:57 AM
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Name: 97rada
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What is AMS?
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AMS is a boost controller using CO2 and a waste gate on the intake side. Basically creating a boost leak on the intake to keep shaft speed up on launching.
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Austin
tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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11-20-2017, 11:39 AM
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Name: slownoma
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Originally Posted by jones95runner
Not drag racing, but we did 1525hp on a gtx5533r with a smooth bore plug in it. It was a 91mm billet 10blade. With a 1.24 housing. On a 5.9 13mm pump and Hamilton head, very mild build. It was very easy to drive out of the hole. I don't think you would have any problem at all running it with good supporting mods.
Also had a friend that ran a 94mm gt55 forced turbo on the street with a 1.00 hosing.
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What was the fueling set-up?
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11-20-2017, 12:03 PM
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Name: jones95runner
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What was the fueling set-up?
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Harts 5x25s, harts 13mm pump.
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11-21-2017, 07:57 AM
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Name: YOUNG GUNS15
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What stall do you plan to run with a gt55? I'd imagine a 3k stall would be pretty much mandatory.
Also if you plan to travel to races that are a lot higher in elevation and the DA sucks, it'll be harder for you to race consistent with a big single. I've watched lots of fast trucks that I knew were capable of some pretty awesome numbers struggle hardcore to light their turbo in SLC.
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11-21-2017, 08:44 AM
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Name: 97rada
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We don't have a problem with elevation where I race. I am going compounds
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tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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11-21-2017, 10:07 PM
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Name: YOUNG GUNS15
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Originally Posted by 97rada
We don't have a problem with elevation where I race. I am going compounds
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Quick decision!
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11-22-2017, 05:50 AM
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Name: 97rada
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Single gt55 on a 12v
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Quick decision!
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I don't want to get caught with my pants down at a race early next year. I can give it a shot as a single middle of the summer. Just for fun.
The truck needs to run in the 5s next year
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tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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11-22-2017, 06:29 AM
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Name: Cummins12Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97rada
I don't want to get caught with my pants down at a race early next year. I can give it a shot as a single middle of the summer. Just for fun.
The truck needs to run in the 5s next year
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a mechanical truck in the 5s on a budget? Thats not possible they say! haha
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11-22-2017, 07:56 AM
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Name: 97rada
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Originally Posted by Cummins12Club
a mechanical truck in the 5s on a budget? Thats not possible they say! haha
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I am staying with my 12v block to. I think it can be done. I went 6.44 leaving soft with a 12mm pump, low timing and a gt4094/484 setup. Cut weight and add 250 hp and it should do it.
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Austin
tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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11-22-2017, 09:33 AM
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Name: 40ray
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97rada
I am staying with my 12v block to. I think it can be done. I went 6.44 leaving soft with a 12mm pump, low timing and a gt4094/484 setup. Cut weight and add 250 hp and it should do it.
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Went 6.11 at 116 this year with a 13mm 24v 5.9 stock 260k mile motor. Valve springs, pushrods, and a 188/220 were the only things done to the motor.
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