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06-08-2018, 04:53 AM
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Name: mopar440cu
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Boost controlllers
I am wanting to control my boost on my 01 Dodge 5.9 Cummins with a S362sxe wastegated and would like some advise. I would like to get the boost to come on a little faster is this the route to go? I tow with this particular Dodge with 110 injectors. If this is the route to go, What controller would you suggest? I was looking at the TurboSmart T-controller, but are not sure. Maybe one of you can educate me.
Thanks!!
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06-08-2018, 07:23 AM
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Name: biggy238
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That device only blocks air pressure from actuating the wastegate, keeping turbocharger speed up longer than it normally would be.
It won't make it boost sooner.
I'm curious to hear other suggestions, but I'm relatively certain you are looking at Iron or software changes to get what you want.
There are two ways to look at it: you either make the turbine housing smaller, or increase the amount of exhaust available to drive it.
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06-08-2018, 07:33 AM
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Name: rdix7991
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What do you have for tuning?
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06-08-2018, 07:59 AM
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is it because its a smokey laggy pig with no power or what is the idea behind what you want?
quicker spool cant be achieved very easily...
you have a smarty?
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06-08-2018, 01:34 PM
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Name: mopar440cu
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Originally Posted by dieselbeef
is it because its a smokey laggy pig with no power or what is the idea behind what you want?
quicker spool cant be achieved very easily...
you have a smarty?
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No it’s not a “smoky laggy pig” Lol
I have a Quadzilla Adrenaline with a Suncoast built transmission and 4:30 gears
I just was thinking that maybe a boost controller might help the S362sxe build boost a little earlier.
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06-08-2018, 01:49 PM
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Name: mopar440cu
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Originally Posted by rdix7991
What do you have for tuning?
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Quadzilla with a tow tune.
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01 3500, Quadzilla Adrenaline, 62-68-12, Airdog 165, Banks intake, ATS header, 110 BD injectors, 4 inch exhaust to 8" black miter stack,4:30 gears, Suncoast transmission w/ billet input shaft, Dynamic VB, Georend billet flexplate and Suncoast triple disc convertor.
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06-08-2018, 01:53 PM
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Name: mopar440cu
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Originally Posted by biggy238
That device only blocks air pressure from actuating the wastegate, keeping turbocharger speed up longer than it normally would be.
It won't make it boost sooner.
I'm curious to hear other suggestions, but I'm relatively certain you are looking at Iron or software changes to get what you want.
There are two ways to look at it: you either make the turbine housing smaller, or increase the amount of exhaust available to drive it.
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If it blocks the air from activating the actuator holding the waste-gate rod closed earlier wouldn't that make the turbo make boost sooner though?? Just thinking out loud trying to figure this out.
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06-08-2018, 01:56 PM
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No it’s not a “smoky laggy pig” Lol
I have a Quadzilla Adrenaline with a Suncoast built transmission and 4:30 gears, etc. I love the S362sxe and it is a lot better than the old stock HY to tow with.
I just was thinking that maybe a boost controller might help the S362sxe build boost a little earlier.
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I did not see where to edit what I said so...
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06-08-2018, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mopar440cu
If it blocks the air from activating the actuator holding the waste-gate rod closed earlier wouldn't that make the turbo make boost sooner though?? Just thinking out loud trying to figure this out.
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No.
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06-08-2018, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mopar440cu
If it blocks the air from activating the actuator holding the waste-gate rod closed earlier wouldn't that make the turbo make boost sooner though?? Just thinking out loud trying to figure this out.
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The actuator is usually preset to around 35psi when new. A boost controller would be a benefit if you wanted to increase overall boost to say 45psi. But will act the exact same up to that point, a boost controller only controls total boost, not spool time.
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06-08-2018, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonc
The actuator is usually preset to around 35psi when new. A boost controller would be a benefit if you wanted to increase overall boost to say 45psi. But will act the exact same up to that point, a boost controller only controls total boost, not spool time.
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Ok, cool, thanks for clarifying that for me!!
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01 3500, Quadzilla Adrenaline, 62-68-12, Airdog 165, Banks intake, ATS header, 110 BD injectors, 4 inch exhaust to 8" black miter stack,4:30 gears, Suncoast transmission w/ billet input shaft, Dynamic VB, Georend billet flexplate and Suncoast triple disc convertor.
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06-08-2018, 04:49 PM
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I'm digging the all Bold text!
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I’ll fix that. Lol
Well tried that cant do it. I was just playing around.
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06-08-2018, 06:06 PM
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What exhaust housing and turbine size is the 362
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06-08-2018, 06:15 PM
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Name: mopar440cu
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What exhaust housing and turbine size is the 362
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It’s a 62/68/12
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06-08-2018, 07:42 PM
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Injectors would be my choice. 110's don't offer a lot of fuel to get the turbine going without adding a good bit of duration.
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06-08-2018, 09:33 PM
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Name: 95cummins5.9
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How heavy do you tow
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06-09-2018, 07:12 AM
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How heavy do you tow
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I own a metal extrusion company that has 16' pull behinds to 36' goose necks. We tow about 6500lbs give or take with the pull behinds and about 12000 with the goose necks ,give or take rough estimating. It depends on size of job for metal on the decks.
Dont get me wrong I like the new turbo, its given the truck I am talking about a lot more torque. I was just considering maybe bringing boost on a little sooner than what I have, If it is possible.
I appreciate the help clarifying this subject.
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01 3500, Quadzilla Adrenaline, 62-68-12, Airdog 165, Banks intake, ATS header, 110 BD injectors, 4 inch exhaust to 8" black miter stack,4:30 gears, Suncoast transmission w/ billet input shaft, Dynamic VB, Georend billet flexplate and Suncoast triple disc convertor.
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06-09-2018, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mopar440cu
I own a metal extrusion company that has 16' pull behinds to 36' goose necks. We tow about 6500lbs give or take with the pull behinds and about 12000 with the goose necks ,give or take rough estimating. It depends on size of job for metal on the decks.
Dont get me wrong I like the new turbo, its given the truck I am talking about a lot more torque. I was just considering maybe bringing boost on a little sooner than what I have, If it is possible.
I appreciate the help clarifying this subject.
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Since you aren't towing 30k a different set of gears will load the engine more, boost would come on stronger , even a stock turbo with 3.54 gears spools much quicker than our same truck/setup with 4.10s.
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06-09-2018, 10:17 AM
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Name: mopar440cu
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 95cummins5.9
Since you aren't towing 30k a different set of gears will load the engine more, boost would come on stronger , even a stock turbo with 3.54 gears spools much quicker than our same truck/setup with 4.10s.
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Appreciate it! The reason we changed all our trucks to 4:10-4:30 gears from 3:54 was for hauling purposes. The 3:54 actually was really laggy at a take off.
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06-09-2018, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mopar440cu
Appreciate it! The reason we changed all our trucks to 4:10-4:30 gears from 3:54 was for hauling purposes. The 3:54 actually was really laggy at a take off.
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Then if the 3.54s where laggy that leaves you with fuel and tuning. Load drives the charger.
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