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12-26-2015, 03:46 PM
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Name: Panther 95
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Same/Lamborghini 6ltr 2700rpm
Have a Same Panther 95 tractor for pulling fitted with a 6 cylinder 6ltr 3 valve engine max rpm is 2700. (Can go to 3000rpm)
Planning on putting a Holset HX55 turbo with 71mm inlet, 80mmexhaust, 28cm2 turbine housing to it. Hoping to get 45psi boost minimal.
Last year whe put a P7100 on it,made a gearbox for because Same doens't have any driveline for it. Bored the nozzle's to 0.015 my self and made return holes on the injector because Same don't use return lines.
Else they would open at 700bar(10.000PSI+),now just 180bar(2610PSI).
Whe tested it with a waterbrake at 325HP, only the PTO broke. So we don't know how much more it was
Pump is a PE6P120A320RS7428. with RQV
This year it's getting 2418455152 Flat top - performance 13mm plungers And Governer conferted to RQ.
Panther 95
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12-26-2015, 03:52 PM
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Name: Panther 95
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Last edited by Panther 95; 12-26-2015 at 03:55 PM.
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12-26-2015, 10:21 PM
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Name: Shainer
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Now that's how you get a proper start on this forum. Nice work!
Any videos of the tractor in action?
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12-27-2015, 08:17 AM
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Name: Panther 95
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Originally Posted by Shainer
Now that's how you get a proper start on this forum. Nice work!
Any videos of the tractor in action?
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More than a year ago I was here also once.
Only it didn't go wel with the tractor.
Now with a good pump it goes much better.
Panther 95
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12-27-2015, 10:24 AM
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Name: 99GreenCummins
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Over seas pullers always interested me, always trying something new!
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12-27-2015, 04:16 PM
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Name: Panther 95
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Over seas pullers always interested me, always trying something new!
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Here in Holland we have many European Champions.
So the level grows with that. For me it's a hobby gone to far.
Willing to ride 4 or 5 events a year as local as possible.
Called Hobbysport 3.5ton or 3500kg. They mostly have only safety rules.
Today i saw a HE551V for sale. Thinking of using that instead of the HX55.
Last edited by Panther 95; 12-27-2015 at 04:21 PM.
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12-27-2015, 05:28 PM
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Name: Shainer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Panther 95
For me it's a hobby gone to far.
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That statement applies to probably better than 90% of the members here
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'98 24v "Irish Chimp". I started out with very little... I still have most of it.
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12-28-2015, 04:30 PM
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Name: Leiffi
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What kind of pump it has originally when it has non-return nozzles ? I dont think drilling nozzles is a good idea for good spray pattern and atomization, there are better ways to do it.
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12-29-2015, 12:43 PM
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Name: Panther 95
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Originally Posted by Leiffi
What kind of pump it has originally when it has non-return nozzles ? I dont think drilling nozzles is a good idea for good spray pattern and atomization, there are better ways to do it.
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It had six PFR1K90A535 bosch pumps. Couldn't find bigger plungers for it.
Only custom made for $250,- a piece and no garantie it would work.
The P7100 was only $125,- and the 13mm it's getting $120,- for 6 including shipping from china.
Know drilling nozzles isn't the best thing to do, but it worked for the moment.
What would you do? I have DLLA145P849 bosch# 0433171577 nozzles.
Panther 95
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12-29-2015, 03:01 PM
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Name: zfaylor
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You must have much bigger pants there to fit your giant balls. Drilling injectors on a mill and china 13mm P&Bs. I like you style. Watching this!
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12-29-2015, 04:48 PM
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Name: Panther 95
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You must have much bigger pants there to fit your giant balls. Drilling injectors on a mill and china 13mm P&Bs. I like you style. Watching this!
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i like (must) doing my self as much as possible.
And with tractorpulling it only runs idle a few minutes, maxed out 20-30 seconds.
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12-29-2015, 05:12 PM
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Name: Signature600
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Never thought I'd see a SAME tractor on here. Excellent engines. AWESOME job putting a P7100 in place of the unit pumps.
We have had a lot of good luck from our SAME air cooled engines, and the Lamborghini liquid cooled version.
Chris
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12-29-2015, 05:22 PM
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Name: Panther 95
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Signature600
Never thought I'd see a SAME tractor on here. Excellent engines. AWESOME job putting a P7100 in place of the unit pumps.
We have had a lot of good luck from our SAME air cooled engines, and the Lamborghini liquid cooled version.
Chris
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Nice to hear somebody positive about SAME! What models did you have?
A Panther should have a 5cyl aircooled engine. We liked the idea of 3 valves and RISE TECHNOLIGIE Lamborghini used.
Peter
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12-29-2015, 06:37 PM
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Name: Signature600
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We are an AGCO dealer, and back in the 90's AGCO was using SAME for their 130hp and smaller tractors. Our models were 4650/4650, 5650/5660/5670/5680, 6670/6680/6690, 7600, 8610/8630.
3 Cylinder to 6 Cylinder models, some with unit pumps, some with some screwball injection systems.
Something like this...
Chris
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12-29-2015, 07:56 PM
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Name: DieselBulldog10
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no helmets or rollover protection on some of those tractors. That is scary. Lol Cool videos though.
A few years ago I was running a scraper tractor at one of the local pulls and one of the tractors got a red flag in the middle of the pull and he hit the throttle and ended off and on the throttle and the wheelie bars snapped and the driver ended up under the tractor with fuel pouring down on to him. After that they made them have better rollover protection.
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12-30-2015, 12:20 AM
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Name: Panther 95
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Thats a Same Laser.
Saidle where not officle Same dealer after 50years. And Claas dealer after 15 years. Whe could get MF, but instead the boss taked Mc Cormick
Whe must have desant wheeliebars and rolloverbar or caitsch.
Than you also need a helmet
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12-30-2015, 02:24 PM
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Name: Panther 95
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Signature600
We are an AGCO dealer, and back in the 90's AGCO was using SAME for their 130hp and smaller tractors. Our models were 4650/4650, 5650/5660/5670/5680, 6670/6680/6690, 7600, 8610/8630.
3 Cylinder to 6 Cylinder models, some with unit pumps, some with some screwball injection systems.
Something like this...
Chris
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Tractorpulling started for me with this beauty,it's a Same Explore 65.
Fitted a stock 4cyl turbo. made 144hp almost twice the torque.
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12-30-2015, 05:38 PM
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Name: Signature600
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Panther 95
Tractorpulling started for me with this beauty,it's a Same Explore 65.
Fitted a stock 4cyl turbo. made 144hp almost twice the torque.
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That's a AGCO Allis 6670. Spent a TON of time around those to.
Chris
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01-10-2016, 11:40 AM
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Name: mfsuper90
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That is an awesome build. I love to see the ingenuity of replacing the unit injectors with the p7100. Most people would have said you couldnt do it, but its done!
That would be some good power for only 3.5ton!
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