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Fireman450 · 05-18-2010, 02:26 PM

I need to come up with some way to strap my front end down on my truck that dosnt affect upward travel of the suspention. This past weekend I threw two big ratchet straps over my motor mounts and under my front axel and it helped the hook alot. But when the front end came down at the end of my run it snapped one of my straps. So I need to come up with something better than straps or chains.
Anybody have any suggestions? I do have a solid front axel.

Lynn

TrailerproPop · 05-18-2010, 02:38 PM

That's diaster for a Duramax, not sure about a Dodge.

zstroken · 05-18-2010, 02:38 PM

Bigger straps!

kino_fab · 05-18-2010, 03:17 PM

its disaster on pretty much all 4wd trucks, but it helps out a whole lot on the 2wds

SSpeeDEMONSS · 05-18-2010, 03:31 PM

why not but some actual limit straps. you can mount them on the outside of the frame.

Limiting Straps

Garrett

Fireman450 · 05-18-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SSpeeDEMONSS

why not but some actual limit straps. you can mount them on the outside of the frame.

Limiting Straps

Garrett

Might look into those, and @ 30 bucks a piece they aint to bad to try.
Gave them a call and they said they should handel 8 to 10k lbs easy.
Im just worried that if I bounce them to hard ill break em like I did my ratchet strap..lol

Lynn

*Chris Tobin* · 05-18-2010, 04:06 PM

The off road guys use limit straps and rarely break them... Just be sure that they will be mounted free of any obstructions that may cut or damage the strap as that will cause it to break...

getblown5.9 · 05-18-2010, 04:06 PM

If monster trucks and trophy trucks can run them off road at 100mph with tons of travel, i dont think you will break them pulling at 20-30mph with the front end bouncing even a few times.

Signature600 · 05-18-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fireman450

Might look into those, and @ 30 bucks a piece they aint to bad to try.
Gave them a call and they said they should handel 8 to 10k lbs easy.
Im just worried that if I bounce them to hard ill break em like I did my ratchet strap..lol

Lynn

Did it break them, or cut them?

Chris

apocalypse1812 · 05-18-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kino_fab

its disaster on pretty much all 4wd trucks, but it helps out a whole lot on the 2wds

why is that?

Fireman450 · 05-18-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Signature600

Did it break them, or cut them?

Chris

Ihad one that had a nick in it, so it may have just been enough of a shock to have finished it off. I dont think there would have been anything to have cut it, but I could be wrong, it was one of them hey lets try this real quick things...

So getting the proper length strap and getting a good mount to the frame seems like a good bet so far.

Lynn

Fireman450 · 05-18-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1812

why is that?

Well on a 2wd any time the front end comes up you loose hitch height and also on an unstrapped front end the truck dosnt have to work as hard to lift the front end until it reaches maximum travel, then it must work harder to lift the front end off the ground. By strapping the front you take out that first bit of slack and get a better weight transfer as well as not as much lost hitch height. Therefore more traction.

Lynn

apocalypse1812 · 05-18-2010, 04:31 PM

I meant why it was a disaster for 4X4 trucks.

Fireman450 · 05-18-2010, 04:41 PM

Not sure on tha one I just know a 4x4 dosnt like to be tied down, Saw a truck once when he came off the line his left front wheel came about a foot off the ground and he shattered everything.... Bragg explain this ...lol

Lynn

*Chris Tobin* · 05-18-2010, 05:29 PM

Yes a small nick, cut or tear will cause the strap to fail... That's why it will be so important to properly locate the limit straps on the truck... In off road they typically install them on the same plane as the shocks so that they have good clearance. Just be sure to determine the length and mounting locations carefully or make room for adjustments...

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Originally Posted by Fireman450

Ihad one that had a nick in it, so it may have just been enough of a shock to have finished it off. I dont think there would have been anything to have cut it, but I could be wrong, it was one of them hey lets try this real quick things...

So getting the proper length strap and getting a good mount to the frame seems like a good bet so far.

Lynn

Fireman450 · 05-18-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Tobin

Yes a small nick, cut or tear will cause the strap to fail... That's why it will be so important to properly locate the limit straps on the truck... In off road they typically install them on the same plane as the shocks so that they have good clearance. Just be sure to determine the length and mounting locations carefully or make room for adjustments...

Thanks for the advice Chris.

Lynn

2wpuller · 05-18-2010, 06:49 PM

Axle tiedown straps work good also.I think we had talked about stapping the front axle last year didn't we.You are moving in the rite direction.way to go.Call me when you have a minute Lynn
Dale

kino_fab · 05-19-2010, 03:13 PM

not real sure on the exact theory of why its disaster on a 4wd, but every 4wd i've seen that has tried tighing the front end down solid has always instantly went into a bad bounce and shattered the front drive train.

94 12valve · 05-19-2010, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kino_fab

not real sure on the exact theory of why its disaster on a 4wd, but every 4wd i've seen that has tried tighing the front end down solid has always instantly went into a bad bounce and shattered the front drive train.

both 2nd and 3rd gen dodges? also what did they use to tie the front end down?

I really can't see why it would bounce like that

94 12valve · 05-19-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 94 12valve

both 2nd and 3rd gen dodges? also what did they use to tie the front end down?

I really can't see why it would bounce like that

did some more thinking about this, and I think the only way a solid front would work is with a rear that is blocked solid.

05-18-2010, 02:26 PM	#1
Fireman450 Name: Fireman450 Title: Daring to be diffrent!! Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton , KY Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,606	Limit Straps/ Devices I need to come up with some way to strap my front end down on my truck that dosnt affect upward travel of the suspention. This past weekend I threw two big ratchet straps over my motor mounts and under my front axel and it helped the hook alot. But when the front end came down at the end of my run it snapped one of my straps. So I need to come up with something better than straps or chains. Anybody have any suggestions? I do have a solid front axel. Lynn __________________ Lynn Chapman Driver: 04.5 CR Play Toy:1994 Dodge 12V, SMOKE SHOWIN! 2WD Pulling Team. vs. 3.0 in progress. Thanks to Northeast Diesel, MUMAU DIESEL , PullTech Chassis & Fab, Cooper High Performance, SKPP, Joe Gibbs Racing/Driven Racing Oils and all my friends and family!

05-18-2010, 02:38 PM	#2
TrailerproPop Name: TrailerproPop Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NE Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 334	That's diaster for a Duramax, not sure about a Dodge. __________________ 04 Chevrolet ccsb, lly, EFI, SC IV, One of the most active Senior Citizen Sled Pullers around.

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zstroken Name: zstroken Title: For $$$ your name here Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Michigan(by the lake) Member`s Gallery Posts: 23,151	Bigger straps! __________________ 2008 4x4 Megacab, 68RFE 97 Dodge gone.... 24V P-Pump Mafia member #1(retired) Thanks to Mumau Diesel, Goerend Transmission, Northeast Diesel Service!

05-18-2010, 03:17 PM	#4
kino_fab Name: kino_fab Title: KTPA Tech Official Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Glasgow, Ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,244	its disaster on pretty much all 4wd trucks, but it helps out a whole lot on the 2wds __________________ 04.5 3500 daily driver/ex-sled puller - On the operating table Tech Official for:

05-18-2010, 03:31 PM	#5
SSpeeDEMONSS Name: SSpeeDEMONSS Title: Still Learning Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: LA/OC, so cal Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,370	why not but some actual limit straps. you can mount them on the outside of the frame. Limiting Straps Garrett __________________ 2003 F-250 XLT, CC, SB, 4wd, 5r110, 3.73 in pieces "Runs, DRIPS, and Errors" 94 2500 12v, 4wd, 5spd, 4.10. 382hp/1000tq gone but not forgotten 2000 GMC 2500 6.0 LQ4, 4l80e, 2wd, RC, LB needs a turbo

05-18-2010, 04:06 PM	#7
Chris Tobin Name: Chris Tobin Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Dayton, TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,662	The off road guys use limit straps and rarely break them... Just be sure that they will be mounted free of any obstructions that may cut or damage the strap as that will cause it to break... __________________ Chris Tobin Editor--Ultimate Diesel Builder's Guide Freelance Editor and Photographer Working with DIESEL WORLD, DIRT SPORTS, MUSCLE CAR POWER & STREET TRUCKS magazines tobinemail@aol.com I might be able to help get you in a mag. Custom poster size photos available. PM or email for info.

05-18-2010, 04:06 PM	#8
getblown5.9 Name: getblown5.9 Title: Ceritified Kleenex Dealer Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Baltimore, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 7,259	If monster trucks and trophy trucks can run them off road at 100mph with tons of travel, i dont think you will break them pulling at 20-30mph with the front end bouncing even a few times. __________________ ONE PIECE AT A TIME -02 Dodge Ram 2500-Because...Pull Truck 07 Dodge 3500 SRW Megacab Laramie- 5.9/Auto, 250,000 miles, built for longevity

05-18-2010, 04:31 PM	#13
apocalypse1812 Name: apocalypse1812 Title: Nailed It! Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Odessa, Tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,180	I meant why it was a disaster for 4X4 trucks.

05-18-2010, 04:41 PM	#14
Fireman450 Name: Fireman450 Title: Daring to be diffrent!! Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton , KY Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,606	Not sure on tha one I just know a 4x4 dosnt like to be tied down, Saw a truck once when he came off the line his left front wheel came about a foot off the ground and he shattered everything.... Bragg explain this ...lol Lynn __________________ Lynn Chapman Driver: 04.5 CR Play Toy:1994 Dodge 12V, SMOKE SHOWIN! 2WD Pulling Team. vs. 3.0 in progress. Thanks to Northeast Diesel, MUMAU DIESEL , PullTech Chassis & Fab, Cooper High Performance, SKPP, Joe Gibbs Racing/Driven Racing Oils and all my friends and family!

05-18-2010, 06:49 PM	#17
2wpuller Name: 2wpuller Title: letting the smoke fly Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Washington,Missouri Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,894	Axle tiedown straps work good also.I think we had talked about stapping the front axle last year didn't we.You are moving in the rite direction.way to go.Call me when you have a minute Lynn Dale __________________ 1975 f250 6.0 Perkins,twins,2006,6sp allison 1972 C10,5.9 5sp 2007 Dodge 2 WD pulling truck Sponsors GoerendTransmission Haisley Machine MCS MidwestPerformanceDiesel ShowMePerformance Snow Performance

05-19-2010, 03:13 PM	#18
kino_fab Name: kino_fab Title: KTPA Tech Official Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Glasgow, Ky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,244	not real sure on the exact theory of why its disaster on a 4wd, but every 4wd i've seen that has tried tighing the front end down solid has always instantly went into a bad bounce and shattered the front drive train. __________________ 04.5 3500 daily driver/ex-sled puller - On the operating table Tech Official for: