Advertisement
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Home Who's Online Today's Posts HP Calculator CompD Gift Shop Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together > Tech- General Diesel > General Diesel Tech
Register Members List Timeslips EFI Live Library Invite Your Friends FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

General Diesel Tech Farm equipment, Medium Duty, Big Rigs, and other General discussion can be found in here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-24-2020, 12:13 PM   #20261
Rig Wrench
 
Rig Wrench's Avatar

Name: Rig Wrench
Title: Wannabe Tech
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: In the ditch
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,045
Quote:
Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post

It really is something else that I did an inframe for $10,000 Canadian pesos on my Detroit and my dads warranty claim is the same amount. My truck doesn't even have that ****. I can't imagine what the turbo and turbocompound costs.
The manufacturers dont want the problems gone. They just want it to get through warranty with as minimal cost to them as possible
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 3832e1fa5c6a4e0e10a6b771d17aae0e.jpg (208.1 KB, 0 views)
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2020, 12:21 PM   #20262
jfaulkner
 
jfaulkner's Avatar

Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ohio
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,864
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rig Wrench View Post
The manufacturers dont want the problems gone. They just want it to get through warranty with as minimal cost to them as possible


Is that Terrance or Phillip on that bill?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by StainlessRRA View Post
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2020, 03:41 PM   #20263
allan5oh

Name: allan5oh
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2012
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,106
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner View Post
Is that Terrance or Phillip on that bill?
Blame Canada.
__________________
All of your BSFCs are belong to me
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2020, 06:18 PM   #20264
Rig Wrench
 
Rig Wrench's Avatar

Name: Rig Wrench
Title: Wannabe Tech
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: In the ditch
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,045
Quote:
Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
Blame Canada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x52aTiLVG3I
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2020, 07:42 PM   #20265
allan5oh

Name: allan5oh
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2012
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,106
Click the image to open in full size.

Top right by the orange mark is the pressure sensor. They fail at a high rate. When they fail the weep hole leads directly into the compartment shown. It does not leak to atmosphere. There is no weep hole in this compartment. You can see the traces of DEF everywhere. Now look at the bottom left. Thats where the plug is. So the compartment starts filling with DEF and its only outlet is the wiring harness. Its literally pressurizing the DEF into the harness.

But wait, theres more.

After the DEF enters the harness what is going to stop it? So now the DEF harness - or whatever it is called - is ruined but the DEF keeps going to the main harness contaminating and destroying it as well. At this point a simple sensor failure has caused $10,000 in damage!

But wait, theres more.

It didnt happen in this case but the DEF can even make its way into the ACM. My guess is if that happened it would be an additional $5,000.

Someone needs to redesign and recall this system. It has a cascade of engineering flaws that lead to cascading failures.
__________________
All of your BSFCs are belong to me
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2020, 08:12 PM   #20266
jfaulkner
 
jfaulkner's Avatar

Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ohio
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,864
Quote:
Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
Click the image to open in full size.



Top right by the orange mark is the pressure sensor. They fail at a high rate. When they fail the weep hole leads directly into the compartment shown. It does not leak to atmosphere. There is no weep hole in this compartment. You can see the traces of DEF everywhere. Now look at the bottom left. Thats where the plug is. So the compartment starts filling with DEF and its only outlet is the wiring harness. Its literally pressurizing the DEF into the harness.



But wait, theres more.



After the DEF enters the harness what is going to stop it? So now the DEF harness - or whatever it is called - is ruined but the DEF keeps going to the main harness contaminating and destroying it as well. At this point a simple sensor failure has caused $10,000 in damage!



But wait, theres more.



It didnt happen in this case but the DEF can even make its way into the ACM. My guess is if that happened it would be an additional $5,000.



Someone needs to redesign and recall this system. It has a cascade of engineering flaws that lead to cascading failures.


Since the odds of the OEM fixing this is worse than Vegas slots can you attach a hose to the weep hole to maybe keep the def out of the case? Of course doing this on a “new” truck will void your warranty but it might keep it from being down for weeks.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by StainlessRRA View Post
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2020, 09:05 PM   #20267
allan5oh

Name: allan5oh
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2012
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,106
Yup thats about the best we can do to mitigate. Off warranty I wouldnt hesitate to do it.
__________________
All of your BSFCs are belong to me
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2020, 11:31 AM   #20268
Signature600
 
Signature600's Avatar

Name: Signature600
Title: THA MAN!
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Jeffersonville, Ohio
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 11,974
Why don't you just redesign it at your own expense since you have it all figured out? You could make billions on truckers alone.

Chris
__________________


THANKS TO:
Tim Barber @ TRE Diesel
Jeff Mumau @ Mumau Diesel Service
Rip @ Source Automotive
Don Thuren @ ThurenFab Suspension
Columbus Diesel Supply

  Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2020, 12:29 PM   #20269
Ram12vcummins

Name: Ram12vcummins
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Mar 2015
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,659
I’ll keep my old iron.

On that note I know of a couple kw and Pete’s running def without issues.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2020, 11:40 PM   #20270
allan5oh

Name: allan5oh
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2012
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,106
Quote:
Originally Posted by Signature600 View Post
Why don't you just redesign it at your own expense since you have it all figured out? You could make billions on truckers alone.

Chris
Could you even do that? Tampering with emissions equipment?


On a side note what do you guys recommend for kingpin kits? Are no ream kits a good option? I'm getting the axle eyes bushed.
__________________
All of your BSFCs are belong to me
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 06:44 AM   #20271
Ram12vcummins

Name: Ram12vcummins
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Mar 2015
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,659
Quote:
Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
Could you even do that? Tampering with emissions equipment?





On a side note what do you guys recommend for kingpin kits? Are no ream kits a good option? I'm getting the axle eyes bushed.



Put Kaiser in my truck. Expensive but seem to be working out. Does your axle need to be bushed? Did it run loose?
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 07:26 AM   #20272
Signature600
 
Signature600's Avatar

Name: Signature600
Title: THA MAN!
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Jeffersonville, Ohio
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 11,974
Quote:
Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
Could you even do that? Tampering with emissions equipment?


On a side note what do you guys recommend for kingpin kits? Are no ream kits a good option? I'm getting the axle eyes bushed.
You would be improving it, not tampering
Chris
__________________


THANKS TO:
Tim Barber @ TRE Diesel
Jeff Mumau @ Mumau Diesel Service
Rip @ Source Automotive
Don Thuren @ ThurenFab Suspension
Columbus Diesel Supply

  Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 09:14 AM   #20273
jfaulkner
 
jfaulkner's Avatar

Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ohio
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,864
Truckers, lets see your rigs!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Signature600 View Post
You would be improving it, not tampering

Chris


It doesn’t get any better than OEM, when whatever you have comes from the factory it can never be any better than that. Hear that all the time. Usually have to let those people spend a pile fixing things back to “factory spec” before they decide maybe there is a better way, liner protrusion comes to mind.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by StainlessRRA View Post
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.

Last edited by jfaulkner; 01-27-2020 at 09:15 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 11:26 AM   #20274
allan5oh

Name: allan5oh
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2012
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,106
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ram12vcummins View Post
Put Kaiser in my truck. Expensive but seem to be working out. Does your axle need to be bushed? Did it run loose?
I did the Kaiser kit about 2 years ago but the driver side drawkey came loose? I'm not sure if that caused the problems after (kingpin became loose) or if it was installation error, or the axle needed bushed when I did it. I cleaned the **** out of the axle eye and used the "go, no go" tool in about 20 different spots top and bottom. The spindles were brand new. The pin dropped out way too easy yesterday which wasn't surprising given how bad that side was.

In other news it took me little over an hour to completely strip the axle down to nothing. Took more time taking the axle out.

I also found two s cams that the outer seal was blown. My fault. I think what happened is the grease gun stopped working well and they weren't getting the grease they needed. It would randomly lose prime but would sound like it was still pumping. Grit and water prevented the grease from migrating out between the slack and s-cam tunnel like it should. Ah well **** happens I hope the s-cams themselves are ok.
__________________
All of your BSFCs are belong to me
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 11:32 AM   #20275
Rig Wrench
 
Rig Wrench's Avatar

Name: Rig Wrench
Title: Wannabe Tech
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: In the ditch
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,045
Quote:
Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
Could you even do that? Tampering with emissions equipment?
Not sure how the law is written in Canadastan, but down here the law is soo broad that even your old 60 series is considered illigal. Anything that alters output is considered tampering. Its more a matter of whats chosen to be enforced and what is most obvious has a better chance of getting flagged. Which tends to be on the discretion of the individual writtin the tickets
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 01:21 PM   #20276
biggy238
 
biggy238's Avatar

Name: biggy238
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Just North of Wrong
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 10,864
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rig Wrench View Post
Not sure how the law is written in Canadastan, but down here the law is soo broad that even your old 60 series is considered illigal. Anything that alters output is considered tampering. Its more a matter of whats chosen to be enforced and what is most obvious has a better chance of getting flagged. Which tends to be on the discretion of the individual writtin the tickets
More a matter of what the low hanging fruit is in my opinion.

Sent from my motorola one vision using Tapatalk
__________________
Check out @bdmaximusworx

05.5 Campanella White TDi Jetta 5spd 45.5MPG
-Little Sexy
'10 Silver F250 CCLB 4X4 6.4L cummins Swapped
Insta @trash.panda250
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2020, 05:01 PM   #20277
Rig Wrench
 
Rig Wrench's Avatar

Name: Rig Wrench
Title: Wannabe Tech
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: In the ditch
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,045
Saw this behind an old defunct mall in Florida. Doesnt look like uts been used in some time. I think theyre kinda rare???
If nothin else, flat glass, doors, hood ect ect ect
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20200208_164138_HDR.jpg (251.8 KB, 0 views)
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2020, 06:09 PM   #20278
jfaulkner
 
jfaulkner's Avatar

Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ohio
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,864
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rig Wrench View Post
Saw this behind an old defunct mall in Florida. Doesnt look like uts been used in some time. I think theyre kinda rare???

If nothin else, flat glass, doors, hood ect ect ect


Why are you behind an old mall in FL? Looking for truckers to make some cash with those soft hands?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by StainlessRRA View Post
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2020, 06:25 PM   #20279
sootie

Name: sootie
Title: .....like a BAWSS
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2013
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 866
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rig Wrench View Post
Saw this behind an old defunct mall in Florida. Doesnt look like uts been used in some time. I think theyre kinda rare???
If nothin else, flat glass, doors, hood ect ect ect
Bunk probly gets a workout...
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2020, 06:38 PM   #20280
Highwayman
 
Highwayman's Avatar

Name: Highwayman
Title: bored.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Wacko
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,087
They failed. the circle should have rifling instead of stripes, referencing the truck number.
__________________
97 Dodge 2500 RCLB (scrapped)
1973 F250 crew (soon to receive new power train)
COMPD:
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcfreak24 View Post
Lolzzzzzz fakin haters
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:56 AM.

 


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2024, CompetitionDiesel.com
all information found on this site is property of www.competitiondiesel.com