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Old 10-16-2018, 05:16 PM   #61
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Ah, another classic asinine "torque versus horsepower" debate. Derailing discussions since the early 1900's I'm sure.
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Old 10-16-2018, 05:27 PM   #62
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I came here to read about big singles, and instead I see this...
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In return the greatest power output comes from the hip rather than the thigh, this is the reason it's easier to climb a hill standing as it's more of a true vertical stroke such as the cummins I6 vs a V8 design which looses force from the angular stroke.
This is quite possibly the dumbest argument for V vs inline that I have ever heard or read.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:11 PM   #63
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Ah, another classic asinine "torque versus horsepower" debate. Derailing discussions since the early 1900's I'm sure.
To the original topic

It comes down to Intended application and the duty cycle involved.

You *should* always be able to make torque across a broader curve, more reliably, with twins.



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Old 10-17-2018, 09:22 AM   #64
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I don't think you understood the analogy, buts its not a big deal. One things for sure the single thing spitting hot air out is senior truffle butter Allan.
I tried really hard to understand the point you were trying to make, but in the end, I guess my thinking isn't abstract enough. Maybe you can explain it to me. I'm curious to see your thought process on how an inline engine makes more torque than a V engine because the cylinders are angled.
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:28 AM   #65
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Blackmega's don't matter. Somebody please give us a permaban for the window licker. Praise allah or whoever is needed to make this happen.
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:42 AM   #66
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Blackmega's don't matter. Somebody please give us a permaban for the window licker. Praise allah or whoever is needed to make this happen.
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:33 PM   #67
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Like I told you I could care less, but since you insisted...

It has to do largely with balance, stroke length, crank design, and overall efficiency.

The V subsequently has it's advantages of course.

You put the same displacements with the same air to fuel setups, you'll see the inline motor make more initial torque yet will likely make as much if not a bit less horsepower compare to the V as it benefits from increased rpms which equal crank speed.

There are countless articles and such on this.

You're a Dmax guy, and I can appreciate your passion for your setup.
That's not what you said. You said an inline makes more torque because it has a vertical stroke rather than an angular stroke of a V configuration. I'm genuinely interested in how that is. Do you think gravitational pull on the rod and piston being directly over the crank is adding that much torque to the overall output? That is the reason it is easier to pedal a bike standing than sitting.
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:31 PM   #68
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Big singles make lots of HP and diesels make that torque, so really it’s the combination of horsetorques that gets the job done!
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:06 PM   #69
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Well, I thought this was a discussion on big singles. I was sorely mistaken. I will never get the time back it took to scroll through this seemingly meaningless babble, luckily I didn't have anything better going on.

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Thank you blackmega3500 and allan5oh for the lesson, but i do actually have a question for those running big singles. Ive seen a couple of guys running big singles to same the bottom end on a duramax. I know at some point it will give, but have seen a few people run some big singles and having very good outcomes with stock fuel. I was wondering if there is some testimonies out there? Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-01-2019, 02:26 PM   #71
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"Good" and "Big" are subjective as can be. Define what you consider to be "good results" and "big single".

My definition of good doesn't associate at all with big single and stock fuel.
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Old 02-01-2019, 04:55 PM   #72
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"Good" and "Big" are subjective as can be. Define what you consider to be "good results" and "big single".

My definition of good doesn't associate at all with big single and stock fuel.
Sorry about that, what i'm meaning is that i've seen people run a s475 single with stock fuel making around 550-600 HP and making the bottom end last a "little" longer lol. I wouldn't be totally upset if i do put a s475 on my truck and scatter the engine, due to that would give me an excuse to tell the wife why I need to build it
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:27 PM   #73
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Things change a bit with better flowing heads and manifolds. I'm guessing that's had something to do with it.
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Why in the fawk would you put a 475 on with half the fuel it can use? Is this duramax standard practice?
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A Stock lb7 turbo can about make 550rwhp, why would you use a 475 to make the same hp and have a ton of lag?
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A Stock lb7 turbo can about make 550rwhp, why would you use a 475 to make the same hp and have a ton of lag?
Planning for the future, At some point will be upgrading the fueling system on the truck. I will be building the transmission first before I do anything with the turbo so would like to know if im gonna go with compounds or a big single for the converter. The truck is a budget build and I don't have 15k just to throw at it for fueling and air upgrades at one time.
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