Advertisement |
|
|
|
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above.
You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.
To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
|
03-04-2018, 01:22 PM
|
#1
|
Name: smokingoat04
Title: Not real sure
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Missouri
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 948
|
Best turbo choice
I'm looking for a few suggestions on which turbo to go with on my new setup.
Realistic goals are around 900 hp, single turbo, no larger than 75mm. The truck will be driven on the street, but I don't expect it to tow or anything like that. I know Lag will be a factor with any larger single, but want the best middle ground.
2004 Cummins 305/555 Nv5600
stock bottom end, with scheid drop in cam
stock head
t-4 manifold
aftermarket intercooler, and larger piping and intake
twin cp3
firepunk'd hp tuning
45lpm injectors
I currently have a box 475/83 1.0 t-4 that i ran a little on the truck with less fueling. It was a laggy turd. I also ran a precision 2.6 gt4294 on the truck years ago with big fuel and enjoyed it on the street. I'm looking to just use it as a cruiser, and the brush pull 2-3 times a year hince the 75mm limit. I have been looking at a fleece s475/87, or s471/87. Would it be work keeping the 475/83/1.0 and adding a wheel to it, or is the 87 turbine that much better. Also can get my hands on a garrett based precision 3x3.35 1.12 t-4 that was ran on a very competitive 3.0 common rail truck, I know the power it will support, but unsure how laggy it will be, or if it's over kill. If anyone has experience, or numbers that would be appreciated. I'm also not stuck on those choices, so throw out any and all suggestions
__________________
04.4 QCSB Nv5600 under the knife again.....2018 build engaged
2007 classic LBZ 3500 rclb single wheel 5" straight pipe, afe, trans go jr., Efi Live Moonshined
|
|
|
03-04-2018, 01:47 PM
|
#2
|
Name: jasonc
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2009
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,395
|
Going from a 83 to 87 turbine will cause more lag, but flow more in the upper rpms. You ought to talk to Weston and take his advice, I've seen where he's recommended a sxe472 and guys have been happy with.
|
|
|
03-04-2018, 02:09 PM
|
#3
|
Name: smokingoat04
Title: Not real sure
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Missouri
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 948
|
I understand the 87 causing more lag, but i'm also concerned with drive pressures around 4500 rpms. I will explore the s472 sxe a little harder, have seen some mixed reviews, and wasn't sure if it would comfortably support 900+
__________________
04.4 QCSB Nv5600 under the knife again.....2018 build engaged
2007 classic LBZ 3500 rclb single wheel 5" straight pipe, afe, trans go jr., Efi Live Moonshined
|
|
|
03-04-2018, 03:44 PM
|
#4
|
Name: RyanMayo
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Maine
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 348
|
The 72 being referred to isn't the sx-e, it's a cast 7+7 style wheel that happens to flow very similarly to the sx-e. (110lb/min).
__________________
2004 Ram 2500 qcsb
64/71/14, 100 hp nozzles, smarty, billet trans
|
|
|
03-05-2018, 09:15 AM
|
#5
|
Name: ramthiscummins
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Canada EH!
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 589
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by smokingoat04
I'm looking for a few suggestions on which turbo to go with on my new setup.
Realistic goals are around 900 hp, single turbo, no larger than 75mm. The truck will be driven on the street, but I don't expect it to tow or anything like that. I know Lag will be a factor with any larger single, but want the best middle ground.
2004 Cummins 305/555 Nv5600
stock bottom end, with scheid drop in cam
stock head
t-4 manifold
aftermarket intercooler, and larger piping and intake
twin cp3
firepunk'd hp tuning
45lpm injectors
I currently have a box 475/83 1.0 t-4 that i ran a little on the truck with less fueling. It was a laggy turd. I also ran a precision 2.6 gt4294 on the truck years ago with big fuel and enjoyed it on the street. I'm looking to just use it as a cruiser, and the brush pull 2-3 times a year hince the 75mm limit. I have been looking at a fleece s475/87, or s471/87. Would it be work keeping the 475/83/1.0 and adding a wheel to it, or is the 87 turbine that much better. Also can get my hands on a garrett based precision 3x3.35 1.12 t-4 that was ran on a very competitive 3.0 common rail truck, I know the power it will support, but unsure how laggy it will be, or if it's over kill. If anyone has experience, or numbers that would be appreciated. I'm also not stuck on those choices, so throw out any and all suggestions
|
45 lpm injectors - are those DDP or?
I would look into a gt42 or a 472 and get a hold of smokem
__________________
2003 QCSB cummins, DDP 12mm CP3, DDP SM 150% overs, a turbo, Firepunk diesel 48re
|
|
|
03-18-2018, 10:29 AM
|
#6
|
Name: Leiffi
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2013
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,381
|
71/80 HX55 , makes over 1000 hp.
|
|
|
04-04-2018, 10:59 AM
|
#7
|
Name: fosterriley
Title: Just wanna go fast
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Oakdale/Bozeman
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 169
|
I'm currently running a 72SXE 87 turbine and 1.10 T4. I had the .90 housing on there and it seemed to choke the turbo out when I was trying to stage. The 1.10 comes on faster when staging at the line. Also makes less boost cruising on the freeway at 80 compared to the .90
__________________
2006 5.9 HX60, Steed, Exergy 250%, GPD Fuelboss, dual pumps, Cope Billet 48re valvebody, CA tuned
Last edited by fosterriley; 04-04-2018 at 11:03 AM.
|
|
|
04-04-2018, 11:05 AM
|
#8
|
Name: zfaylor
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: P-TOWN!, Indiana
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,024
|
The cast 72 is a good choice for that level. The 72 with the 87 turbine is something we try to stock as well if Weston doesnt have stock.
__________________
2015 half ton heavy chevy
81 Fairmont LS project
Many yard ornament projects...
North American Turbo
|
|
|
04-05-2018, 07:05 AM
|
#9
|
Name: wwentzler
Title: Diesel Enthusiast
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2017
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 152
|
personally id go larger on the injectors first and foremost. second there are lots of options out there, and unfortunately anything street single is going to lag at that power level, especially with a 5.9. I would surely go to an 87/.9 hot side if you want a borg charger.
|
|
|
04-05-2018, 07:09 PM
|
#10
|
Name: smokingoat04
Title: Not real sure
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Missouri
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 948
|
I think I'm going to switch to 150% exergys. I have heard of an 06 hitting 1000 with them and 476sxe. I know it will be laffy, and will deal with it accordingly. Just want to keep it to a minimum. I may add some giggle gas later for street fun
__________________
04.4 QCSB Nv5600 under the knife again.....2018 build engaged
2007 classic LBZ 3500 rclb single wheel 5" straight pipe, afe, trans go jr., Efi Live Moonshined
|
|
|
04-05-2018, 11:45 PM
|
#11
|
Name: Breedsrt
Title: diesel and tranny tech
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Cleveland, tx
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 193
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by smokingoat04
I think I'm going to switch to 150% exergys. I have heard of an 06 hitting 1000 with them and 476sxe. I know it will be laffy, and will deal with it accordingly. Just want to keep it to a minimum. I may add some giggle gas later for street fun
|
I made over 1k with 200% s&s at 1800us, and a 476sxe 87 turbine in a 1.1 housing. There is a few of us out there with similar setups. My charger will be for sale in a few weeks....
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
12.77 at 104.65 mph
06 2500 single cab 4x4 TRADED IN
smarty revo, tst, trans work, stage 1 cp3.
Stock turbo and injectors fuel only
95 single cab swb dually aka MFDT
|
|
|
04-06-2018, 08:23 PM
|
#12
|
Name: JEWING3227
Title: Green Behind the Ears
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2016
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 77
|
1057hp on 150% S&S's @ 2000uS.
FI 476/87/1.0
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk
|
|
|
04-08-2018, 09:21 PM
|
#13
|
Name: smokingoat04
Title: Not real sure
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Missouri
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 948
|
Jewing3227 how Smokey is it on the street? Haze at idle, or constant driving down the road?
__________________
04.4 QCSB Nv5600 under the knife again.....2018 build engaged
2007 classic LBZ 3500 rclb single wheel 5" straight pipe, afe, trans go jr., Efi Live Moonshined
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 06:32 AM
|
#14
|
Name: zfaylor
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: P-TOWN!, Indiana
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,024
|
Is the goal 1000hp or 900hp?
__________________
2015 half ton heavy chevy
81 Fairmont LS project
Many yard ornament projects...
North American Turbo
|
|
|
04-09-2018, 08:24 PM
|
#15
|
Name: smokingoat04
Title: Not real sure
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Missouri
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 948
|
900 minimum, 1000 would be nice, but won't be super upset if it's 950ish
__________________
04.4 QCSB Nv5600 under the knife again.....2018 build engaged
2007 classic LBZ 3500 rclb single wheel 5" straight pipe, afe, trans go jr., Efi Live Moonshined
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:21 AM.
|