Engine stand/cart. - Competition Diesel.Com

jimbo486 · 01-24-2016, 11:22 PM

I'll be pulling the Cummins out of my Dodge in the coming weeks and I'm wanting to build a cart that will capture both sides of the where the motor mounts bolt to. What I'm trying to determine is specs for some steel to fabricate the cart out of. I'm thinking of square tubing with at least a 3/16" wall. With that in mind, what size tubing would work well to support a fully dressed Cummins?

Has anybody built something similar that could give me any ideas or things to be aware of? Pictures are always good for reference. I have a Harbor Freight welder which does well for me. Just for good measure, I'll probably make multiple passes on each joint.

jlibert · 01-24-2016, 11:51 PM

Mooner1 · 01-25-2016, 05:47 PM

That thing is noice!

jimbo486 · 01-25-2016, 06:48 PM

Looks like maybe 1"x4" tubing? That would work. After bolting to the block and the width is set, I could span another piece of steel across both ends of the legs. Then bolt or weld some caster to the bottom and be set.

Thanks, J.P.!

Highwayman · 01-25-2016, 07:40 PM

Just out of curiousity, what's the reasoning behind wanting a stand that holds both sides?

Howling · 01-25-2016, 08:14 PM

With the stand pictured above you can rotate the motor 360* and a fully assembled Cummins is no lite weight.

Highwayman · 01-25-2016, 08:35 PM

I just never had a problem with my traditional stand, except of course when I misplaced the handle so I was using short bar stock and nearly broke my wrist.

But I guess I would feel safer with the extra support.

Broaner · 01-25-2016, 10:45 PM

Got this in a trade with a local member. Works well even with the engine front heavy from the timing crap. There are 2 large bearings supporting the rotating mechanism.

WUnderwood · 01-25-2016, 11:28 PM

^^^ that is tits

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Woosley · 01-25-2016, 11:30 PM

Is the mounting plate welded to the shaft?

Sanger · 01-26-2016, 12:06 AM

Can you post pictures of the gear drive? When you rotate the motor what keeps the motor in a certain position a pin?

Tate · 01-26-2016, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jlibert

That looks dangerous if you ever wanted to spin it upside down if the head is on. Or impossible going right side up with the head on. Unless you're using a crane of some sort to control the rotation.

DISTURBED · 01-26-2016, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tate

That looks dangerous if you ever wanted to spin it upside down if the head is on. Or impossible going right side up with the head on. Unless you're using a crane of some sort to control the rotation.

That's what I was thinking. I've had them get away from me on a normal stand attached dead center of the block. I bought a couple 2000 pound stand from jegs and they work to mount them after removing the backing plate. That thing would hurt someone !!

Broaner · 01-26-2016, 10:12 AM

I'll get some more pics. The plate is welded so attaching to the engine is tricky but manageable by myself. The method to lock it in place is a vice grip or 2 on the chain and gear. Its not really strong enough for torqing head bolts but good for just about everything else. Yes its difficult to rotate by hand. Definitely a 2 man or a 1 man + hoist job. Ol Blue traded this to me and he has more I think. haha

jlibert · 01-26-2016, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tate

That looks dangerous if you ever wanted to spin it upside down if the head is on. Or impossible going right side up with the head on. Unless you're using a crane of some sort to control the rotation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DISTURBED

That's what I was thinking. I've had them get away from me on a normal stand attached dead center of the block. I bought a couple 2000 pound stand from jegs and they work to mount them after removing the backing plate. That thing would hurt someone !!

It works fine. It isn't dangerous. There is a pin that holds it place at every 90 degree interval.

DISTURBED · 01-26-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jlibert

It works fine. It isn't dangerous. There is a pin that holds it place at every 90 degree interval.

How do you roll the engine over in a controlled fashion? With out your nuts hitting the floor!

jimbo486 · 01-27-2016, 12:50 AM

Maybe a really, really long bar?

jimbo486 · 01-31-2016, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jlibert

What size and wall thickness is that? It looks to be about 1.5"x4", 0.125" wall tubing?

I found some scrap pieces of that and cut them to 48" and 36" lengths. As well as some 2"x2", 0.250" wall tubing.

jlibert · 02-01-2016, 01:34 AM

The stand is at my friend's shop, but i think it's 2x4 and it's either 1/8" or 3/16".

jimbo486 · 02-01-2016, 04:35 PM

Thanks. I think these pieces should be sufficient to hold the full dressed engine.

01-24-2016, 11:22 PM	#1
jimbo486 Name: jimbo486 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Orange County, CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,617	Engine stand/cart. I'll be pulling the Cummins out of my Dodge in the coming weeks and I'm wanting to build a cart that will capture both sides of the where the motor mounts bolt to. What I'm trying to determine is specs for some steel to fabricate the cart out of. I'm thinking of square tubing with at least a 3/16" wall. With that in mind, what size tubing would work well to support a fully dressed Cummins? Has anybody built something similar that could give me any ideas or things to be aware of? Pictures are always good for reference. I have a Harbor Freight welder which does well for me. Just for good measure, I'll probably make multiple passes on each joint. __________________ 1990 Dodge D350 Giles' 12mm VE - Airdog II 165 - 370s @ 75lpm - BW S362fmw/68/12 - Hamilton 182/214 - '01 NV5600

01-24-2016, 11:51 PM	#2
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Mooner1 Name: Mooner1 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kansas Member`s Gallery Posts: 395	That thing is noice! __________________ '79 Power Wagon, '83 D-350 crew, '89 Ram Charger, '99 2500 ECLB 5spd, '15 Golf SportWagen TDI

01-25-2016, 06:48 PM	#4
jimbo486 Name: jimbo486 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Orange County, CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,617	Looks like maybe 1"x4" tubing? That would work. After bolting to the block and the width is set, I could span another piece of steel across both ends of the legs. Then bolt or weld some caster to the bottom and be set. Thanks, J.P.! __________________ 1990 Dodge D350 Giles' 12mm VE - Airdog II 165 - 370s @ 75lpm - BW S362fmw/68/12 - Hamilton 182/214 - '01 NV5600

01-25-2016, 08:14 PM	#6
Howling Name: Howling Title: Soot Sniffer Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern,IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,304	With the stand pictured above you can rotate the motor 360* and a fully assembled Cummins is no lite weight. __________________ Eric 2006 Dodge CTD/48re 4x4 Sport With some fuel and air. Bullseye,Hamilton,Exergy,EFI,ATS,FASS,HTS,Thuren, Toyo's... 1996 2500 RC 4x4 CTD-63/68/.83,5X.014,180 maxed Ppump,Fass...

01-25-2016, 10:45 PM	#8
Broaner Name: Broaner Title: Been There n Broke That Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Madison, WI Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	Got this in a trade with a local member. Works well even with the engine front heavy from the timing crap. There are 2 large bearings supporting the rotating mechanism. __________________ 05.5 QCSB Shotpeened NV5600 - 994hp/1650tq, 6.7, Wagler Rods, QSB Pistons, 625's, Oversized Valves, ZZFab, P&P, 150%, Dual CP3, 69/73/1.0 & 82/96/1.32 Street Triple, 35's, Trutrac, Carli, MM3 from Gordon, 1100hp

01-25-2016, 11:28 PM	#9
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01-25-2016, 11:30 PM	#10
Woosley Name: Woosley Title: Barely was has been Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hatersburg Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,610	Is the mounting plate welded to the shaft? __________________ 2005 Ram 2500 "Great White Buffalo" Ginger bred, ginger red, ginger proud These guys helped ALOT: Firepunk Diesel D&J Precision Machine Exergy Performance Diesel Performance Converters

01-26-2016, 12:06 AM	#11
Sanger Name: Sanger Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2010 Member`s Gallery Posts: 351	Can you post pictures of the gear drive? When you rotate the motor what keeps the motor in a certain position a pin?

01-26-2016, 10:12 AM	#14
Broaner Name: Broaner Title: Been There n Broke That Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Madison, WI Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	I'll get some more pics. The plate is welded so attaching to the engine is tricky but manageable by myself. The method to lock it in place is a vice grip or 2 on the chain and gear. Its not really strong enough for torqing head bolts but good for just about everything else. Yes its difficult to rotate by hand. Definitely a 2 man or a 1 man + hoist job. Ol Blue traded this to me and he has more I think. haha __________________ 05.5 QCSB Shotpeened NV5600 - 994hp/1650tq, 6.7, Wagler Rods, QSB Pistons, 625's, Oversized Valves, ZZFab, P&P, 150%, Dual CP3, 69/73/1.0 & 82/96/1.32 Street Triple, 35's, Trutrac, Carli, MM3 from Gordon, 1100hp Last edited by Broaner; 01-26-2016 at 10:15 AM.

01-27-2016, 12:50 AM	#17
jimbo486 Name: jimbo486 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Orange County, CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,617	Maybe a really, really long bar? __________________ 1990 Dodge D350 Giles' 12mm VE - Airdog II 165 - 370s @ 75lpm - BW S362fmw/68/12 - Hamilton 182/214 - '01 NV5600

02-01-2016, 01:34 AM	#19
jlibert Name: jlibert Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,454	The stand is at my friend's shop, but i think it's 2x4 and it's either 1/8" or 3/16". __________________ J.P. Libert https://instagram.com/jplibert/

02-01-2016, 04:35 PM	#20
jimbo486 Name: jimbo486 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Orange County, CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,617	Thanks. I think these pieces should be sufficient to hold the full dressed engine. __________________ 1990 Dodge D350 Giles' 12mm VE - Airdog II 165 - 370s @ 75lpm - BW S362fmw/68/12 - Hamilton 182/214 - '01 NV5600