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02-20-2017, 11:21 PM
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Name: 97crewcab
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I have always wondered why I have not seen anyone put two ve pumps on a cummins.
The 2 p-pumps worked better than most people thought on the Canadian truck. Where is the video of the old 6.5 v8 diesel tractor from Europe that ran 2 rotary pumps?
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02-22-2017, 12:09 AM
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#382
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Name: JQmile
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Originally Posted by Bodacious
How about a billet pump housing with all enlarged drive parts, 16MM head, etc... I have some P-pumps fellas...just kidding. lol
Are you all flowing enough fuel that you need a feed line larger than 1/2"??
I have fed our 700+HP race engine with one 8AN and a Aero1000 set at 60psi. When you get those old rotaries pumping out those non-nitrous numbers, I might start getting concerned.
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Hypermax makes a Model 100 rotary pump for pulling tractors that is 15 or 16mm and flows around 550-600cc. They're only about $6,000, for something that a badass 12mm p-pump can outperform
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02-22-2017, 11:23 AM
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#383
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Name: mfsuper90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JQmile
Hypermax makes a Model 100 rotary pump for pulling tractors that is 15 or 16mm and flows around 550-600cc. They're only about $6,000, for something that a badass 12mm p-pump can outperform
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Not to mention they are extremely unreliable, and to get a season out of them is considered lucky
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02-25-2017, 04:45 PM
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#384
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Name: Shaky93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodacious
How about a billet pump housing with all enlarged drive parts, 16MM head, etc... I have some P-pumps fellas...just kidding. lol
Are you all flowing enough fuel that you need a feed line larger than 1/2"??
I have fed our 700+HP race engine with one 8AN and a Aero1000 set at 60psi. When you get those old rotaries pumping out those non-nitrous numbers, I might start getting concerned.
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Give us a few months! There's a couple of guys working on some big things for the ol VE.
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02-25-2017, 04:52 PM
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#385
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Name: 6 speed 90
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Originally Posted by Shaky93
Give us a few months! There's a couple of guys working on some big things for the ol VE.
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Thats what I have heard
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02-25-2017, 05:18 PM
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Name: Shaky93
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Originally Posted by 6 speed 90
Thats what I have heard
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It's gonna be game changing.
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02-25-2017, 05:31 PM
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#387
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Name: smokinVE
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I like gossip. Like how big!?
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02-25-2017, 05:36 PM
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#388
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Name: Shaky93
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Originally Posted by smokinVE
I like gossip. Like how big!?
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Well as we all know the current limits of the VE,
I really don't want to be the one spreading numbers that could be unrealistic.
I'm a firm believer in "seeing is believing" with things like this and I haven't seen any engine dyno sheets or concrete pump bench info.
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02-25-2017, 07:32 PM
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Name: 6 speed 90
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Messing with a VE beyond known limits is a bold move, we'll see if it pans out.
Time will tell all
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You all know the day the cr finally beats the dinosaur all these tickle by wire guys are going to look like a bunch of virgins on prom night busting their first nut! There won't be a dry keyboard in this place
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02-25-2017, 08:21 PM
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#390
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Name: smokinVE
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Can I ask who built the pump Shaky? Is Jason's record/license plate in you goal?
I fully understand you not wanting to say. Just figured I'd ask.
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Originally Posted by jasonc
I don't think they let hair sniffer twit much. Or the little gay guy. Only the Indian does.
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02-26-2017, 01:17 PM
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Name: 1972RedNeck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaky93
Give us a few months! There's a couple of guys working on some big things for the ol VE.
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How many is a few? 6? Or are we talking years?
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Assemble, floor it.
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02-26-2017, 02:07 PM
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Name: Bodacious
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97crewcab
I have always wondered why I have not seen anyone put two ve pumps on a cummins.
The 2 p-pumps worked better than most people thought on the Canadian truck. Where is the video of the old 6.5 v8 diesel tractor from Europe that ran 2 rotary pumps?
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Sure, run them at half speed and you have unlimited RPM's. You could almost drive the second pump off the front of the timing case. Not real sure on how to hook up the injector though.
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02-26-2017, 05:14 PM
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#393
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Name: WILD_PHIL
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Guys I seen a few post somewhere around here about the best way to set up your VE pump. Let's call it zeroing your pump and adjusting it as needed from there.
I've been trying to make my way through this thread screen shot in what I need. Unfortunately I missed screen shooting that info. I
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02-27-2017, 09:17 AM
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Name: jlbayes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaky93
Give us a few months! There's a couple of guys working on some big things for the ol VE.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaky93
It's gonna be game changing.
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Do you work for smarty?
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03-02-2017, 12:10 AM
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Name: JQmile
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaky93
Well as we all know the current limits of the VE,
I really don't want to be the one spreading numbers that could be unrealistic.
I'm a firm believer in "seeing is believing" with things like this and I haven't seen any engine dyno sheets or concrete pump bench info.
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When is the cat coming out of the bag?? Would have been neat if that 14/4 combo had survived more than a few test stand runs.
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03-02-2017, 12:15 PM
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Name: mfsuper90
Title: 300ft is all I need
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodacious
Sure, run them at half speed and you have unlimited RPM's. You could almost drive the second pump off the front of the timing case. Not real sure on how to hook up the injector though.
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The video of the tractor in Europe has the injection lines Tee'd together directly after the pump.
I too would love to see major improvements in the VE department. Getting a decent VE would be much easier than adapting a P-pump for my Perkins
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MF Super 90 various odds and ends done. Farm stocker
MF 98 3-71 screaming jimmy. Needs N90's. Another farm stock
'14 Ram Anarchy EFI, G56
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05-11-2017, 09:00 AM
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#397
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Name: Whitey_VE_pump
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Anyone ever considered a billet housing? Run very high internal pressure from an external pump? That takes away the internal pump machining problems use a gear pump run 500 psi inside or more.
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05-27-2017, 08:57 PM
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#398
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Name: smokinVE
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What's the return line size? The quick connect fitting at the rear of the cylinder head. Anyone know if someone makes a fitting that uses that style quick connect to an6?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonc
I don't think they let hair sniffer twit much. Or the little gay guy. Only the Indian does.
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05-28-2017, 01:41 AM
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Name: lz_69
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smokinVE
What's the return line size? The quick connect fitting at the rear of the cylinder head. Anyone know if someone makes a fitting that uses that style quick connect to an6?
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Fuel Injected - Adapter Fittings - Russell Performance Products
The second threaded cap fittings would be the ones to get. Believe the feed is 3/8" and the return is 5/16" on my 92.
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03-02-2019, 09:45 AM
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#400
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Name: DISTURBED
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Open
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