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99GreenCummins · 12-17-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by roachie

I use clean burning coal for heat.....

My building is well insulated and is right under 4000sqft, I didnt build it so floor heat wasnt an option. When I get a good fire going, and chuck it full of coal it will burn for about 4 hrs untouched and put off serious heat. It will heat about half the building to 60-65* with outside temps 15-20*. Just be aware, my stove jacket stays about 700*........don't touch it. A shop the size of the OP's, my stove would make you sweat, pick one up on CL and go on.

My neighbors would kill me for rolling that much coal.

Op= original poster
Cl= craigslist

4x4dually · 12-17-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CumminNotRunnin

Running into the same thing, we run a 175k diesel space heater but by the end of 8hr you stink and you have a headache. Let alone it eat 50$ a day in fuel. From what I have been researching, it seems like a single 250k strip would be sufficient for a shop our size. Then again we don't quite have the insulation you do.

I think a 175 would work for us. Like you.....after a while headaches are horrible! And diesel is crazy.

Lots of heaters.....not much selection help.

http://www.sunstarheaters.com/industrial/i-product.html

Info.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zejkKX2bVkk#t=270

roachie · 12-17-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CumminNotRunnin

That little thing will heat 2000sq feet to 60-65 ?

What do you mean by OP and CL?

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You can see it better in this pic, it holds 60* to about where the white Ford is. Keep in mind that I have a 22 or 24 ft peak on my roof, 14ft eves, and non insulated doors with no trees for a windbreak outside.

Where I'm standing is 10ft off the floor and about 70ft away, it was 60ish up there, colder floor level though, I think I can keep it warmer if I get a ceiling fan. The roof is about 100* around it. I know a man couldnt bare that damn stove in a small garage.

(escuse the mess, we were cleaning(

On the smoke, inital start up smokes like a pig, once the fire is rolling good it produces less smoke than a wood stove. And coal is $115 per ton here.

CumminNotRunnin · 12-17-2013, 02:05 PM

How much coal do you figure you burn say on an 8hr day?

roachie · 12-17-2013, 02:27 PM

Not exactly sure but I know it is less than. 50lb

4x4dually · 12-17-2013, 03:13 PM

I just sent this off to http://www.reverberray.com/

I'll let you know what they recommend me. I want at least a 30 deg differential if not 40.

It helps that I only have one opening to the outside and fully insulated. I'd reckon two 75K, U-shaped units will be their recommendation. We'll see.

CumminNotRunnin · 12-17-2013, 03:22 PM

My kinda house, the shop is bigger than the living quarters!

4x4dually · 12-17-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CumminNotRunnin

My kinda house, the shop is bigger than the living quarters!

Shop used to be a full 45 x 45. Then we added the mud room with the girls room on top, now we are adding a laundry room with another bathroom off into it....the dayum thing keeps shrinkin'!!!!!

CumminNotRunnin · 12-17-2013, 03:58 PM

Is the kids room referred to as Loft Storage?

4x4dually · 12-17-2013, 04:04 PM

No, the kids room we added is the part that hangs out over the "tools" part. The area below it is the "mud room" we take all our crap off in when we enter the house.

The loft is just packed with JUNK! I have to throw junk out montly to keep it from running over the side.

The whole left hand part of the underneath side of the loft above will become a bathroom and closet/laundry room soon. The entire right side will become work bench under it with my big sink in there too.

4x4dually · 12-18-2013, 10:29 AM

Got a call back from

R. L. WILLIAMS CO.
332 West 33rd Street
Edmond, OK 73013
Phone: 405-475-2810
Fax: 405-475-2815
http://www.rlwco.com

The owner was very nice to talk to and answered a hundred of my questions.

He recommends for my shop an HL3-30-125 mounted on a 45 deg angle above my door. This is a 30 ft straight tube, 2-stage unit, thermostat controlled, 125K BTU. Will run CNG or Propane (define when ordered). The unit shipped to my door will cost $972.00 and told me I can run it as low as I wanted or if I wanted serious heat, it would easily run a 40deg delta in my application. Sounds pretty good. This will heat the slab which will in-turn reduce the cost of heating my house that sets on it as well.

CumminNotRunnin · 12-18-2013, 10:38 AM

You ordered is already?

4x4dually · 12-18-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CumminNotRunnin

You ordered is already?

Need to discuss with wife unit.

Locally: 250 gal propane tanks are $840 new, $500 used. Craigslist they are about a $1/gal but the gas place told me not to by anything older than a 1970 tank. I'll talk to the wife tonight. Meanwhile, in other news, 4x4dually posts "anyone got a used propane tank to sell" on his facebook.

So, I'll prolly have about $2K in this system if I do it. Heater, tank, lines, regulator, electricity, thermostat, etc etc etc. I need more projects.

CumminNotRunnin · 12-18-2013, 10:53 AM

Well good luck with the meeting, keep us posted.

4x4dually · 12-18-2013, 10:57 AM

She sleeps with socks on in the summer time......I doubt I have trouble selling "heat" to her.

CumminNotRunnin · 12-18-2013, 11:03 AM

Haha sounds like you should of just ordered it.

Sent from my Toilet Explorer

Nor'Easter · 12-18-2013, 05:31 PM

Buy it unannounced and give it to her for Christmas

4x4dually · 12-20-2013, 02:09 PM

Ordered it....and she ordered a Mother's ring. I guess we both have our Christmas presents coming via UPS after the holidays.

I got the 125K, 30ft unit. Will use shop air for intake and I will vent the exhaust outside. Low fire is 82K BTU and high fire is 125.

Good info here:

http://www.reverberray.com/?product=hl3-series

Click on documentation tab and select engineering submittal pdf.

CumminNotRunnin · 01-03-2014, 08:23 AM

So I am hoping you got it... did you install it yet? I want to hear about it?

zstroken · 01-03-2014, 08:30 AM

I am curious if there is a real advantage to owning your own propane tank.

12-17-2013, 02:05 PM	#44
CumminNotRunnin Name: CumminNotRunnin Title: Internet Mechanic Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: North West, NJ Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,090	How much coal do you figure you burn say on an 8hr day? __________________ Got Er Cummin "A business that makes nothing but money, is a poor business." -Henry Ford

12-17-2013, 02:27 PM	#45
roachie Name: roachie Title: Taco Master Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,133	Not exactly sure but I know it is less than. 50lb __________________ 99 F250____sold (to a ninja) 01 F250____Mexican F150 04 F350____Fat boy

12-17-2013, 03:22 PM	#47
CumminNotRunnin Name: CumminNotRunnin Title: Internet Mechanic Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: North West, NJ Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,090	My kinda house, the shop is bigger than the living quarters! __________________ Got Er Cummin "A business that makes nothing but money, is a poor business." -Henry Ford

12-17-2013, 03:58 PM	#49
CumminNotRunnin Name: CumminNotRunnin Title: Internet Mechanic Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: North West, NJ Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,090	Is the kids room referred to as Loft Storage? __________________ Got Er Cummin "A business that makes nothing but money, is a poor business." -Henry Ford

12-18-2013, 10:38 AM	#52
CumminNotRunnin Name: CumminNotRunnin Title: Internet Mechanic Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: North West, NJ Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,090	You ordered is already? __________________ Got Er Cummin "A business that makes nothing but money, is a poor business." -Henry Ford

12-18-2013, 10:29 AM	#51
4x4dually Name: 4x4dually Title: Moderator Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stillwater, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 31,812	Got a call back from R. L. WILLIAMS CO. 332 West 33rd Street Edmond, OK 73013 Phone: 405-475-2810 Fax: 405-475-2815 http://www.rlwco.com The owner was very nice to talk to and answered a hundred of my questions. He recommends for my shop an HL3-30-125 mounted on a 45 deg angle above my door. This is a 30 ft straight tube, 2-stage unit, thermostat controlled, 125K BTU. Will run CNG or Propane (define when ordered). The unit shipped to my door will cost $972.00 and told me I can run it as low as I wanted or if I wanted serious heat, it would easily run a 40deg delta in my application. Sounds pretty good. This will heat the slab which will in-turn reduce the cost of heating my house that sets on it as well.

12-18-2013, 10:53 AM	#54
CumminNotRunnin Name: CumminNotRunnin Title: Internet Mechanic Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: North West, NJ Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,090	Well good luck with the meeting, keep us posted. __________________ Got Er Cummin "A business that makes nothing but money, is a poor business." -Henry Ford

12-18-2013, 10:57 AM	#55
4x4dually Name: 4x4dually Title: Moderator Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stillwater, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 31,812	She sleeps with socks on in the summer time......I doubt I have trouble selling "heat" to her.

12-18-2013, 11:03 AM	#56
CumminNotRunnin Name: CumminNotRunnin Title: Internet Mechanic Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: North West, NJ Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,090	Haha sounds like you should of just ordered it. Sent from my Toilet Explorer __________________ Got Er Cummin "A business that makes nothing but money, is a poor business." -Henry Ford

12-18-2013, 05:31 PM	#57
Nor'Easter Name: Nor'Easter Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Maine Member`s Gallery Posts: 947	Buy it unannounced and give it to her for Christmas __________________ Mike Stacked silencer rings. 1957 Cummins Power Wagon 2014 Regular Cab G56

12-20-2013, 02:09 PM	#58
4x4dually Name: 4x4dually Title: Moderator Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stillwater, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 31,812	Ordered it....and she ordered a Mother's ring. I guess we both have our Christmas presents coming via UPS after the holidays. I got the 125K, 30ft unit. Will use shop air for intake and I will vent the exhaust outside. Low fire is 82K BTU and high fire is 125. Good info here: http://www.reverberray.com/?product=hl3-series Click on documentation tab and select engineering submittal pdf.

01-03-2014, 08:23 AM	#59
CumminNotRunnin Name: CumminNotRunnin Title: Internet Mechanic Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: North West, NJ Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,090	So I am hoping you got it... did you install it yet? I want to hear about it? __________________ Got Er Cummin "A business that makes nothing but money, is a poor business." -Henry Ford

01-03-2014, 08:30 AM	#60
zstroken Name: zstroken Title: For $$$ your name here Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Michigan(by the lake) Member`s Gallery Posts: 23,151	I am curious if there is a real advantage to owning your own propane tank. __________________ 2008 4x4 Megacab, 68RFE 97 Dodge gone.... 24V P-Pump Mafia member #1(retired) Thanks to Mumau Diesel, Goerend Transmission, Northeast Diesel Service!