4th gen wheels on a 2nd gen? - Competition Diesel.Com

kawi600 · 12-22-2020, 05:46 AM

Has anyone used 4th gen rims on a 2nd gen? Looks like the rear axle wont clear the inner diameter and the hubcap on the 4th gen wheels.
It sucks trying to find used rims in 18 or 20 for this thing. Everything I find either screams BLING or the offset would cause them to rub. Thats after skipping all the rims that came in metric.
Stock 4th gen 18" ones look nice but Im betting they dont fit =(

bateman · 12-22-2020, 07:39 AM

Hmm I’ve seen pics. Never looked into how they were mounted though.

jasonc · 12-22-2020, 08:35 AM

I had 4th gen Alcoa's on my 2nd gen dually, fit great.

kawi600 · 12-22-2020, 03:30 PM

I have a feeling spacers were probably used for the rear wheels. dont want to put spacers on the truck for safety reasons

bateman · 12-22-2020, 04:28 PM

I’ve always heard that and my wheels will probably fall off tomorrow, but I’ve ran them on fast cars that dead hooked, a rig on 40’s, and now a clapped out 2nd gen with no problems. I’m more worried about my steering column u joint coming undone than a forged spacer with 8 lug nuts holding it on haha

kawi600 · 12-22-2020, 05:22 PM

I drove a couple hundred miles on the highway, came home and found my pitman arm nut was held on by a couple threads once.. Nylock nut backed off while I was driving.
drilled everything out for castle nuts and cotter pins after I saw that.

jasonc · 12-23-2020, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kawi600

I have a feeling spacers were probably used for the rear wheels. dont want to put spacers on the truck for safety reasons

No spacers, bolted right up no problems.
Again this was a dually, don't know if single wheel would swap over the same.

kawi600 · 12-23-2020, 07:56 PM

yeah the axle stubs on the SRW axle is what worries me. the inside diameter looks small and the hubcap doesnt look tall enough to cover it.

BigPapa · 12-24-2020, 07:52 AM

A fellow on TDR posted this about a set of 2015 4th Gen wheels he bought. The fellow he bought them from told him they were 17’s. He has a ‘98 RWD. Evidently, the 18’s have more offset.

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The wheels made me aware of 2 issues:
1st, if they had been 17’s, they wouldn't have worked on my 2wd. The deeper offset would have made the inside of the rim hit my upper control arm, but the 18’s cleared.
2nd, the cap is only about 3" diameter. The wheel body necks down to fit the smaller cap, so they won't fit over the rear hub by about 3/4". So, either wheel spacers or maybe cut off the end of the hub section on the wheel to fit my 98 Dana 70 hub.

12valvetater · 09-01-2021, 09:04 PM

I put 4th Gen steel 18s on my 97 they sit under the truck more and 275 tires rubbed the control arms at full lock.

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odieub · 10-22-2021, 11:24 PM

Axle width on 2nd gens are different. 97-99 is different than 00-02. The later is an inch wider i think. And the hub is a inch shorter on the rear on the later.

J-Pipes · 10-23-2021, 07:46 AM

I has been running 3rd gen steel wheels for a while, switched to set of 4th gen 17" aluminum wheels last night. They fit fine, might actually sit out just a tad over the 3rd gen wheels, not much if any, but maybe. The 4th gen wheels are from an '11 if that matters. Looks like putting lipstick on a pig!

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12-22-2020, 05:46 AM	#1
kawi600 Name: kawi600 Title: got Coal for Christmas Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: communist urban hell Member`s Gallery Posts: 861	4th gen wheels on a 2nd gen? Has anyone used 4th gen rims on a 2nd gen? Looks like the rear axle wont clear the inner diameter and the hubcap on the 4th gen wheels. It sucks trying to find used rims in 18 or 20 for this thing. Everything I find either screams BLING or the offset would cause them to rub. Thats after skipping all the rims that came in metric. Stock 4th gen 18" ones look nice but Im betting they dont fit =( __________________ Psalm 144 Psalm 37:10,11 Isaiah 65:20

12-22-2020, 03:30 PM	#4
kawi600 Name: kawi600 Title: got Coal for Christmas Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: communist urban hell Member`s Gallery Posts: 861	I have a feeling spacers were probably used for the rear wheels. dont want to put spacers on the truck for safety reasons __________________ Psalm 144 Psalm 37:10,11 Isaiah 65:20

12-22-2020, 05:22 PM	#6
kawi600 Name: kawi600 Title: got Coal for Christmas Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: communist urban hell Member`s Gallery Posts: 861	I drove a couple hundred miles on the highway, came home and found my pitman arm nut was held on by a couple threads once.. Nylock nut backed off while I was driving. drilled everything out for castle nuts and cotter pins after I saw that. __________________ Psalm 144 Psalm 37:10,11 Isaiah 65:20

12-23-2020, 07:56 PM	#8
kawi600 Name: kawi600 Title: got Coal for Christmas Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: communist urban hell Member`s Gallery Posts: 861	yeah the axle stubs on the SRW axle is what worries me. the inside diameter looks small and the hubcap doesnt look tall enough to cover it. __________________ Psalm 144 Psalm 37:10,11 Isaiah 65:20

09-01-2021, 09:04 PM	#10
12valvetater Name: 12valvetater Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. Thomas, PA Member`s Gallery Posts: 464	I put 4th Gen steel 18s on my 97 they sit under the truck more and 275 tires rubbed the control arms at full lock. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 97 12 valve 4x4 NV She ain't pretty but she puts out

12-22-2020, 07:39 AM	#2
bateman Name: bateman Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Alabama Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,672	Hmm I’ve seen pics. Never looked into how they were mounted though.

12-22-2020, 08:35 AM	#3
jasonc Name: jasonc Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,412	I had 4th gen Alcoa's on my 2nd gen dually, fit great.

12-22-2020, 04:28 PM	#5
bateman Name: bateman Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Alabama Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,672	I’ve always heard that and my wheels will probably fall off tomorrow, but I’ve ran them on fast cars that dead hooked, a rig on 40’s, and now a clapped out 2nd gen with no problems. I’m more worried about my steering column u joint coming undone than a forged spacer with 8 lug nuts holding it on haha

10-22-2021, 11:24 PM	#11
odieub Name: odieub Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Leitchfield, KY Member`s Gallery Posts: 923	Axle width on 2nd gens are different. 97-99 is different than 00-02. The later is an inch wider i think. And the hub is a inch shorter on the rear on the later. __________________ 95 1500 rc sb 2wd p7100 24v auto, ats 5 star, suncoast kit, dtt billit input, sperico, fun tire eater. In pieces 95 2500 2wd rclb nv5600 500k 5x.012 ddp 887 pump, #11 plate hx35/40-14cm 16 3500 4wd aisin cclb dually flatbed, toy hauler

10-23-2021, 07:46 AM	#12
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	I has been running 3rd gen steel wheels for a while, switched to set of 4th gen 17" aluminum wheels last night. They fit fine, might actually sit out just a tad over the 3rd gen wheels, not much if any, but maybe. The 4th gen wheels are from an '11 if that matters. Looks like putting lipstick on a pig! Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.