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10-18-2017, 01:32 PM
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#161
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Name: J-Pipes
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by blackmega3500
When you say essentially....
I'm going to patent and protect my idea so non of you internet idiots take my ideas, but please check my math..... Oh what that's not the math I meant to send, it was the other one but can't remember which or how I got it, but a cousins uncles roommates brother was close on his guess so it has to be right!
I fail to see how that's keeping it close to the chest, or even still attached to his terrestrial body for that matter!
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I get what you guys are saying, and sure Archie may not always explain things the best. But the basis of his plan is already widely proven, and I understand not being overly forthcoming about it because there are people on here that do have more available resources, that if they so chose could "steal" it. Just be patient, throw the man a bone when he's trying to double check stuff.
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10-18-2017, 02:04 PM
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#162
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Name: Bodacious
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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Originally Posted by J-Pipes
I get what you guys are saying, and sure Archie may not always explain things the best. But the basis of his plan is already widely proven, and I understand not being overly forthcoming about it because there are people on here that do have more available resources, that if they so chose could "steal" it. Just be patient, throw the man a bone when he's trying to double check stuff.
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Thanks J-Pipes. I need more than a bone. lol
My wife done some general math with the post counts and replies. Less than 2% of the folks viewing this thread at any given time have a chance at understanding. She told me the drama was good and that's why I've held most of your all's attention.
Transmission question, suppose I had a single speed reverser where the forward gear matched say the overdrive of a 47rh?? Suppose I was in a setting such as Bonneville and had all the cooling and hydraulic pressure I needed.
With say a triple disc converter, could I eventually get up to speed and lock the converter??
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10-18-2017, 02:26 PM
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#163
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Name: Bodacious
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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Originally Posted by WUnderwood
OK, to sum up this thread:
- don't know what kind of fuel to go with, still up in the air about gas vs diesel
- possibly owns 1 turbo to go with the build
- debating about V8 vs inline 6
- read one book written by Clessie
- I think the 1st gen is the 'competition truck' entering UCC 2018
- might be on pills, depending on the hour of the day
- thinks moderators on this forum are unfair
- likes multi-quoting himself
- possibility of revgain
Did I miss anything?
My issue is that I have literally seen/been a part of hundreds of these threads over the years on multiple forums. Maybe, and I mean this is a stretch, but 1 out of a hundred actually materializes, and makes it to the finish line. I can't tell you how many times I have read "can I put a DT466 in my F-150?" over the years.
So I'll ask you again, how deep are your pockets?
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Lol, thanks for summarization. I am laughing out loud.
Equal play? Correct?? This my summarization of you.
Really don't know ya. Sorta like ya. ...since we have been in the pharmacy business, '06 or so, we have learned to deal with folks like you. I can tell by your screen name, WUunderwood, you are a frequent user of those little blue pills. Are my tax dollars paying fore those??
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10-18-2017, 02:29 PM
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#164
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Name: dieselbeef
Title: dick doggin
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well this is just getting stupid now...
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rip wrongway...
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10-18-2017, 02:33 PM
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#165
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Name: Bodacious
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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Originally Posted by dieselbeef
well this is just getting stupid now...
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I agree. He is a moderator so I guess we have to put up with him. I have been trying to shut him up for a while.
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10-18-2017, 02:33 PM
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#166
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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Yea I think it’s fair to say you’re just an idiot now. How the phuck can you get off saying that less than 2% of us can understand what is being said? You moron...
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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10-18-2017, 02:40 PM
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#167
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Name: Bodacious
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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Heck I didn't say it. My wife showed it to me with some simple math. That was no an insult to anyone. I'm not gonna apologize to you if you took it that way.
You to BRE, for some reason, seem to be rubbing me wrong. What have I ever done wrong to you?
Why don't you get wood man there to come over to your public truck post and mention that man must be on drugs to do what he does to those trucks.
C'mon. I am about done with place.
Can I get a pro-rated return on the money I've paid this place??
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10-18-2017, 02:50 PM
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#168
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Name: Big Blue24
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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47rh Overdrive is 0.69 ratio. I'm sure with a loose enough converter, you could gain the necessary torque to get it to move. Is it possible to make a setup like that come off the line violently enough for drag racing where the first 100' of the track is so critical for ET, I don't know.
We regularly have customers drive into the shop with a broken or hurt transmission is a 3rd gear limp mode, so just a plain Jane 1800 stall torque converter will move a 7k truck with the trans stuck in 3rd gear/direct or 1.00 ratio. They are sluggish and give the perceived feeling of a slipping trans but will move the truck.
I imagine if the truck was light weight, it would move just fine. The only way you could test your theory would be to convince someone with a race truck with a full manual VB to try launching in 3rd or even overdrive and see how the truck comes off the line and if the trans overheats before lockup can be achieved.
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10-18-2017, 02:52 PM
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#169
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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No, tell me how in the hell you can get our knowledge based off mathematical formula, on this subject?
And for the record, I don’t really give a chit if I rubbed you wrong.
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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10-18-2017, 02:54 PM
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#170
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Name: RascalMafia
Title: heyyyyyyy girrrrrrrl
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Originally Posted by Bodacious
My wife done some general math with the post counts and replies. Less than 2% of the folks viewing this thread at any given time have a chance at understanding. She told me the drama was good and that's why I've held most of your all's attention.
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I'm not going bash on your wife at all, but this is the most absurd statement I've read here or anywhere in a while; the drama portion I can buy into. I'd love to know the formula used in this equation. You don't even know my race, yet somehow you have managed to calculate my IQ along with everyone else who has viewed this thread, a statistic which you can't even see?
A couple more things...the fuel quality in the US extremely high due to federal emissions regulations. If you ever happen to catch a fuel sample while you're in Venezuela, Indonesia, central Africa, or Brazil (just to name a few); that is the real definition of poor fuel quality.
Not all fuel additives are "snake oil" ... this has been proven by Scheid, Haisley, Firepunk, etc. many times over the years.
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Originally Posted by Bodacious
Why don't you get wood man there to come over to your public truck post and mention that man must be on drugs to do what he does to those trucks.
C'mon. I am about done with place.
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I have no idea what this is in reference to, but done with this place because ???
As I said in my first post in this thread before all the BS, I am both intrigued and confused by what you are figure out here...
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10-18-2017, 03:10 PM
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#171
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Name: CowboyEdition
Title: Because Diesel
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Keep going Bodacious. Your hard to follow but I'm picking up on bits of what your saying and I'm enjoying laughing at all the big-mouths getting butt hurt haha
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10-18-2017, 03:37 PM
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#172
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Name: 12vchevydually
Title: my mind is churnin!
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Hang in there, keep it coming!! lol
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10-18-2017, 05:27 PM
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#173
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Name: jasonc
Title: Too Much Time
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Don't leave man! I'm curious as hell with what your coming up with. I know you ain't scared to spend money for sure.
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10-18-2017, 06:53 PM
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#174
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Name: Bodacious
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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I'm not going bash on your wife at all
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That's nice to know.
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You don't even know my race
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That's correct and it doesn't make a hill of beans to me what color you are. You are only human. You just made that Hanging remark and all. ..and yes, I felt you should have responded maybe a little different.
You jumped me over there on the for sale forum when Mark's panties got crooked. You know Mark Nixon buys and sells parts for a living. That is his business. Why is Mark Nixon not blue?? I know it is none of my business. However, since your all about being right and all, I just wanted to know why I had to be blue and Mark stays black yet freely mostly sells on here?
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I'd love to know the formula used in this equation.
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Take the total post count, go back through and count the replies of the folks who are actually listening which she judged by your post. No big formula's. Just simple math.
This statement was not intended to insult.
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the fuel quality in the US extremely high due to federal emissions regulations
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I will argue this statement. I don't have the time to gather the research right now, but, you are wrong. ...and it has to do with cetane level. I've read about right here on compd.
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Not all fuel additives are "snake oil" ... this has been proven by Scheid, Haisley, Firepunk, etc. many times over the years.
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When have I ever said those products were snake oil?
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I have no idea what this is in reference to, but done with this place because ???
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I can't quote myself because you have no problem coming on here and telling me so. I said I am "about" done with this place.
You are no different than the government. Do your job and handle your moderator, WUunderwood. I don't care if he is a moderator, he is still being rude enough that someone should straighten him out. Is that your job?
Don't let me believe I have to be a part of the clique to receive some help.
I spend a lot of time posting on here. Some of ya helped us get Bodacious going. Honestly would not have gotten done without ya. I had some haters over there but nothing like what's going on here. ...and a moderator to boot.
I was really hoping to help compd out. Sorta pay the group back for what we got accomplished with that little truck. This post was an attempt to get some of those folks back on here and thinking with me. Thinking outside of the box does take a bit of craziness.
I'm off here if I have to keep putting up with stuff like WUunderwood or anyone else for that matter. I'm spending more time trying to back up stupid stuff (cause people are just skimming) when I should be working on production.
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10-18-2017, 06:59 PM
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#175
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Name: Bodacious
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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Originally Posted by Big Blue24
47rh Overdrive is 0.69 ratio. I'm sure with a loose enough converter, you could gain the necessary torque to get it to move. Is it possible to make a setup like that come off the line violently enough for drag racing where the first 100' of the track is so critical for ET, I don't know.
We regularly have customers drive into the shop with a broken or hurt transmission is a 3rd gear limp mode, so just a plain Jane 1800 stall torque converter will move a 7k truck with the trans stuck in 3rd gear/direct or 1.00 ratio. They are sluggish and give the perceived feeling of a slipping trans but will move the truck.
I imagine if the truck was light weight, it would move just fine. The only way you could test your theory would be to convince someone with a race truck with a full manual VB to try launching in 3rd or even overdrive and see how the truck comes off the line and if the trans overheats before lockup can be achieved.
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Thanks for listening Will. This is all hypothetical talk as a transmission idea came to me the other day and I wanted to discuss it here.
I'm with ya on the acceleration. That's why I mentioned Bonneville.
Now suppose you could somehow bolt another torque converter behind that one. Everything else being the same, same overdrive single speed with reverser. What would happen??
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10-18-2017, 07:14 PM
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#176
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Name: jasonc
Title: Too Much Time
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Crazy idea but it could double lockup like shift points, why using overdrive and not 1:1, and keep the overdrive shift?
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10-18-2017, 07:22 PM
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#177
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Name: Highwayman
Title: bored.
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I think maybe you just need to ventilate your shop better. Too many low quality diesel fumes or something.
You're losing everyone with your hypotheticals. Read the following thread and tell me what you think.
Diesel PU compared to Big Rig sled pulling HP - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together
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Lolzzzzzz fakin haters
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10-18-2017, 07:29 PM
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#178
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Name: Bodacious
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Folks are custom ordering gears as numerically low as 2.70something to account for the lack of RPM's a diesel makes.
In an effort to get back to non-custom gears, the theory should be run with an overdrive unit.
We can maybe add shifting later. I want to see what happens with just torque converters.
When I spoke with Craig Liberty and ordered the six speed, he ask if I was going Bruno drive. I told him I'd love to but explained my deal with the powerglide and told him I didn't think a converter was available to get it done. Get it done in the respect of spooling and what not.
Anyhow, he said lots of pro-mod guys are switching to lower costs and maintenance. I guess the HP is there to remain competitive with a Bruno.
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10-18-2017, 07:35 PM
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#179
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Name: Bodacious
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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Originally Posted by Highwayman
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Thanks for that Highwayman. I see your point. Do I really sound that way???
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10-18-2017, 08:23 PM
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#180
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Name: Highwayman
Title: bored.
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You need to gather your thoughts a bit more for sure.
It's like the scribbling of a mad man.
(Which you may be, but at least make it coherent)
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Lolzzzzzz fakin haters
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