1000+ hp VP44??? - Competition Diesel.Com

obben666 · 01-21-2007, 07:04 PM

We´ve got our first Dieseltrucksleddpuller here in Sweden and he says on his website that his truck makes 1000-1200 hp.....
I thougt the VP trucks couldn´t make that amount of power. I´ve heard of Jetpilot making 800something and another guy makin 832 with a big shot of nitrous.

He has a homemade water/methsystem and a airshutoff.
Someone asked him on his website if he had a Dynosheet and got the answer that its hard to find a dyno for his 10bolt axle!!??

I have only seen adapters from 8 to 10bolts, and I´ve never heard of any of you that swapped to 10boltsaxels
Dyno´s are rolling roads, arent they? and duallyguys remove the outer wheels if they need..??
Am I totaly wrong here??

SuperDave4x4 · 01-21-2007, 07:38 PM

What's his website?

bad_cummins · 01-21-2007, 07:41 PM

Well he could put a P7100 pump on the truck (12 valve mechanical pump) but I don't think you can make much above 800 with a vp pump, even the hot rod vp pump. I'd like to see his website and look at what he's got.

obben666 · 01-21-2007, 08:07 PM

He doesn´t say anything usefull on his site. And the site is on Swedish so you prob don´t understand a word, but there is a couple of movies under"bilder".

http://www.mickesvard.se/

gstanfield · 01-21-2007, 08:14 PM

I'm just guessing here, but the drug laws are a lot more lenient over there aren't they? I think he's full of it myself, anyone with that kind of power would be willing to show a dyno sheet to prove it.

George

*Billysgoat* · 01-21-2007, 09:21 PM

I'm gonna have to call BS on it simply because the VP44 can't flow the fuel needed to make that kind of power, I might be wrong, but it sounds like he is trying to blow some smoke up everybody's azz.

edgerat · 01-21-2007, 09:47 PM

that is a big ass top turbo right there. and how much weight was on that sled? I am guessing no.

getblown5.9 · 01-21-2007, 10:30 PM

1. How is he claiming 1000hp if he cant find a dyno to do it? (alot of places over there use the dyno boxes that bolt to your lugs, not the rollers. and i doubt they even make an 8-lug adaptor for them, they are used alot on supras and other sports cars.)
2. VP44 cant flow that much fuel
3. not nearly enough smoke, noise, or power shown in his pulling videos
4. his truck is slow and doesnt not spin the STREET TIRES when pulling, 1,000hp would be able to spin MUD TIRES about 3 times faster and be going alot faster pulling the sled
5. Anyone who has a Banks high ram intake does not make 1,000hp or is even considered a BIG DOG
6. those twins are big, but not 1000hp big, you'd need to be in the Pro 52, Phat Bstard range for that kinda power
7. Even if he was CLOSE to 1000 on spray, the smoke should clear up and you'd hear that motor just take off when burning the gas. His truck does not do this.
8. My best guess is that truck is about 550-650hp...A LONG WAY from 1,000

edgerat · 01-21-2007, 10:33 PM

good point on number 1 I think that might be what he is talking about when he says he cant find a dyno for the 10lug

Tcolesanti · 01-22-2007, 01:07 AM

Looks like Sweden's version of the "BIG BAD HYPE"!!!!

What a joke, 1000hp with a vp is BS. You can see in one photo he has the twins but definately no P-pump.

-Tom

obben666 · 01-22-2007, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gstanfield

I'm just guessing here, but the drug laws are a lot more lenient over there aren't they?

Hey I said Sweden not Holland........

obben666 · 01-22-2007, 03:53 AM

I think it´s BS too.
I´ve been on Dieselforums daily for three years now and always heard that the VP doesn´t support more than 800 something.... on drugs.
I just want to make sure...
I have recognized the smoke and wheels not spinnin too, and thats long way from the monsters I´ve seen at "yours" place.

What kind of axle with 10 bolt could he have swapped to?
Shouldn´t the Dana 80 be enough for some big numbers?
Even the D70 in his case

Tcolesanti · 01-22-2007, 04:20 AM

Tell him to take the stupid a$$ adapters off and he'll find 8 lugs.

RacinDuallie · 01-22-2007, 06:34 AM

No way can a VP support 1000 hp-period.

getblown5.9 · 01-22-2007, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RacinDuallie

No way can a VP support 1000 hp-period.

maybe someday someone will make the "stooooopid" version of the VP44 where the internals dont even resemble a stock pump...but it would cost thousands, and be an engineering feat to complete. not to mention that with the 3rd gens being big now, VP44 is outdated technology and nobody is gonna want to spend time building the parts for it. (kinda like nobody making an MLS headgasket for the 2nd gens, because there isnt enough market for motors that arent made anymore)

RacinDuallie · 01-22-2007, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by getblown5.9

maybe someday someone will make the "stooooopid" version of the VP44 where the internals dont even resemble a stock pump...but it would cost thousands, and be an engineering feat to complete. not to mention that with the 3rd gens being big now, VP44 is outdated technology and nobody is gonna want to spend time building the parts for it. (kinda like nobody making an MLS headgasket for the 2nd gens, because there isnt enough market for motors that arent made anymore)

I couldn't see anyone wasting their time to try and perfect a VP for all out hp, it's kinda like the Edge Truck and the Dr.Performance truck who are both fueling box makers but yet both these race trucks have the ol trusty proven mech. P-pump.....

And with these new bigger psi CP3's this is the pump to work out the bugs and go build the power with.... they're just scratching the surface with these yet- give it time- in the meantime the tried and true P-pump rules the roost.

Tcolesanti · 01-22-2007, 08:34 AM

I agree RacinDuallie, VP technology is going out the door, but I got so fed up with electronics when I screwed around with my 24v, I will never own another electronic truck, even if common rail technology starts making as much power as the p-pumps do.

gunracer1 · 01-22-2007, 12:21 PM

i will jump on the BS band wagon as well, that guy is dreaming.

UPNSMOKE · 01-22-2007, 05:07 PM

Maybe He's Using Metric Hp Hahaha

obben666 · 01-22-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UPNSMOKE

Maybe He's Using Metric Hp Hahaha

01-21-2007, 07:04 PM	#1
obben666 Name: obben666 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Member`s Gallery Posts: 175	1000+ hp VP44??? We´ve got our first Dieseltrucksleddpuller here in Sweden and he says on his website that his truck makes 1000-1200 hp..... I thougt the VP trucks couldn´t make that amount of power. I´ve heard of Jetpilot making 800something and another guy makin 832 with a big shot of nitrous. He has a homemade water/methsystem and a airshutoff. Someone asked him on his website if he had a Dynosheet and got the answer that its hard to find a dyno for his 10bolt axle!!?? I have only seen adapters from 8 to 10bolts, and I´ve never heard of any of you that swapped to 10boltsaxels Dyno´s are rolling roads, arent they? and duallyguys remove the outer wheels if they need..?? Am I totaly wrong here?? __________________ 02 2500 QC 4x4 Auto, BD twins, RCP 6x.020, II DFVP, Caltracs, Adr, Towloc, Rad, Built Trans, ARP 625, EBC , Hamilton springs & PR´s, Opies bypass, ATI Damper, 6" Single, Flex-a-lite´s 1/8 7.72 @ 89 , 1/4 12.16 @ 110 495,8 hp old setup Last edited by obben666; 02-24-2007 at 03:15 PM.

01-21-2007, 07:38 PM	#2
SuperDave4x4 Name: SuperDave4x4 Title: popcorn playa Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Luling, Louisiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,416	What's his website? __________________ 2020 Ram 2500 CCLB 4x4 (Sold)1999 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 24v CTD Ext. Cab- 01' motor w/ orings, .020 gasket, Garmon/SunCoast, Drag comp, 150hp EDMs, 57/72 twins, AD150, 20" Hoss, Proxes STII, Thuren/Carli, etc Member #41

01-21-2007, 07:41 PM	#3
bad_cummins Name: bad_cummins Title: Green Behind the Ears Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 35	Well he could put a P7100 pump on the truck (12 valve mechanical pump) but I don't think you can make much above 800 with a vp pump, even the hot rod vp pump. I'd like to see his website and look at what he's got. __________________ 01 dodge 2500 4x4 5 spd extended cab long box Mods: Edge Juice with Attitude, 4in straight, holley blue auxilary pump, Banks intake pleum, AFE Stage 2 intake, Stage three jammers, HTB2 62/12, Southbend 3250 DD, Ram Air hood, nerf bars, tool box, big A$$ bumper,

01-21-2007, 08:07 PM	#4
obben666 Name: obben666 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Member`s Gallery Posts: 175	He doesn´t say anything usefull on his site. And the site is on Swedish so you prob don´t understand a word, but there is a couple of movies under"bilder". http://www.mickesvard.se/ __________________ 02 2500 QC 4x4 Auto, BD twins, RCP 6x.020, II DFVP, Caltracs, Adr, Towloc, Rad, Built Trans, ARP 625, EBC , Hamilton springs & PR´s, Opies bypass, ATI Damper, 6" Single, Flex-a-lite´s 1/8 7.72 @ 89 , 1/4 12.16 @ 110 495,8 hp old setup

01-21-2007, 08:14 PM	#5
gstanfield Name: gstanfield Title: Are we there yet? Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Casper, WY Member`s Gallery Posts: 777	I'm just guessing here, but the drug laws are a lot more lenient over there aren't they? I think he's full of it myself, anyone with that kind of power would be willing to show a dyno sheet to prove it. George __________________ 1997 2500 SLT 4x4 #100 fuel plate, 16.5degrees timing, 3k GSK, Amsoil homemmade intake, Dodgezilla turbo, KDP killed, Dunrite converter & VB, 285/75R16's and autometer gauges.

01-21-2007, 09:47 PM	#7
edgerat Name: edgerat Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 282	that is a big ass top turbo right there. and how much weight was on that sled? I am guessing no. Last edited by edgerat; 01-21-2007 at 09:49 PM.

01-21-2007, 10:30 PM	#8
getblown5.9 Name: getblown5.9 Title: Ceritified Kleenex Dealer Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Baltimore, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 7,259	1. How is he claiming 1000hp if he cant find a dyno to do it? (alot of places over there use the dyno boxes that bolt to your lugs, not the rollers. and i doubt they even make an 8-lug adaptor for them, they are used alot on supras and other sports cars.) 2. VP44 cant flow that much fuel 3. not nearly enough smoke, noise, or power shown in his pulling videos 4. his truck is slow and doesnt not spin the STREET TIRES when pulling, 1,000hp would be able to spin MUD TIRES about 3 times faster and be going alot faster pulling the sled 5. Anyone who has a Banks high ram intake does not make 1,000hp or is even considered a BIG DOG 6. those twins are big, but not 1000hp big, you'd need to be in the Pro 52, Phat Bstard range for that kinda power 7. Even if he was CLOSE to 1000 on spray, the smoke should clear up and you'd hear that motor just take off when burning the gas. His truck does not do this. 8. My best guess is that truck is about 550-650hp...A LONG WAY from 1,000 __________________ ONE PIECE AT A TIME -02 Dodge Ram 2500-Because...Pull Truck 07 Dodge 3500 SRW Megacab Laramie- 5.9/Auto, 250,000 miles, built for longevity

01-21-2007, 10:33 PM	#9
edgerat Name: edgerat Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 282	good point on number 1 I think that might be what he is talking about when he says he cant find a dyno for the 10lug

01-22-2007, 01:07 AM	#10
Tcolesanti Name: Tcolesanti Title: ALL NIGHTER Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Simi Valley, CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,753	Looks like Sweden's version of the "BIG BAD HYPE"!!!! What a joke, 1000hp with a vp is BS. You can see in one photo he has the twins but definately no P-pump. -Tom __________________ 2000 Dodge 3.6 https://www.facebook.com/AllNighterMotorports

01-22-2007, 03:53 AM	#12
obben666 Name: obben666 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Member`s Gallery Posts: 175	I think it´s BS too. I´ve been on Dieselforums daily for three years now and always heard that the VP doesn´t support more than 800 something.... on drugs. I just want to make sure... I have recognized the smoke and wheels not spinnin too, and thats long way from the monsters I´ve seen at "yours" place. What kind of axle with 10 bolt could he have swapped to? Shouldn´t the Dana 80 be enough for some big numbers? Even the D70 in his case __________________ 02 2500 QC 4x4 Auto, BD twins, RCP 6x.020, II DFVP, Caltracs, Adr, Towloc, Rad, Built Trans, ARP 625, EBC , Hamilton springs & PR´s, Opies bypass, ATI Damper, 6" Single, Flex-a-lite´s 1/8 7.72 @ 89 , 1/4 12.16 @ 110 495,8 hp old setup

01-22-2007, 04:20 AM	#13
Tcolesanti Name: Tcolesanti Title: ALL NIGHTER Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Simi Valley, CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,753	Tell him to take the stupid a$$ adapters off and he'll find 8 lugs. __________________ 2000 Dodge 3.6 https://www.facebook.com/AllNighterMotorports

01-22-2007, 06:34 AM	#14
RacinDuallie Name: RacinDuallie Title: Black Sheep Racing Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Supporting Northeast Diesel Racing Member`s Gallery Posts: 17,369	No way can a VP support 1000 hp-period. __________________

01-22-2007, 08:34 AM	#17
Tcolesanti Name: Tcolesanti Title: ALL NIGHTER Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Simi Valley, CA Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,753	I agree RacinDuallie, VP technology is going out the door, but I got so fed up with electronics when I screwed around with my 24v, I will never own another electronic truck, even if common rail technology starts making as much power as the p-pumps do. __________________ 2000 Dodge 3.6 https://www.facebook.com/AllNighterMotorports

01-22-2007, 12:21 PM	#18
gunracer1 Name: gunracer1 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: just north of lake weatherford, tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,068	i will jump on the BS band wagon as well, that guy is dreaming. __________________ 98 3500 4x4 quad 12v 5 speed,98 quad 4x4 12v stock sold, and a 95 reg cab getting triples.97 dually 4x4,6 speed over 500 rwhp, sold, 98 3/4 ton short bed reg cab, over 500 rwhp, sold. 98 quad 5 speed sold and the wife has a little dmax.

01-22-2007, 05:07 PM	#19
UPNSMOKE Name: UPNSMOKE Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ODESSA TX Member`s Gallery Posts: 21	Maybe He's Using Metric Hp Hahaha __________________ SILVER 2002 DODGE 3500 4X4 24V (sold) Black and tan 2009 3500 mega SRW