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02-08-2017, 11:47 AM
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Name: 97rada
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Vband cac tubes on stock mounts
I am looking to run vbands on all of my cac pipes. Has anyone ran into problems with breaking welds. What bellows are people using ect. Wanting to not have problems with this setup.
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02-08-2017, 12:02 PM
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Name: WUnderwood
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I would not V-band both sides of the pipe coming out of the turbo feeding the intercooler. You need some wiggle room, and that's why you might be breaking your welds. Just my opinion.
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02-08-2017, 12:21 PM
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Name: EnduringAtlas
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I'm not an expert in this area by any means but wouldn't you need solid engine mounts to do so? Not sure if bellows would allow enough misalignment otherwise.
Vibrant seems to be a popular high quality choice though.
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02-08-2017, 02:32 PM
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Name: jlbayes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WUnderwood
I would not V-band both sides of the pipe coming out of the turbo feeding the intercooler. You need some wiggle room, and that's why you might be breaking your welds. Just my opinion.
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Only reason I have couplers still. All of my aramid couplers seem to be holding up well.
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02-08-2017, 03:49 PM
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Name: Tate
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You could look into Vanjen clamps. Allows for a decent amount of misalignment.
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02-08-2017, 03:56 PM
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Name: 97rada
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I was planning on a bellow of some sort to take some of the abuse. Just want really secure tubes. Was thinking of a vband at the Cooler and a boot after the bend into the cooler
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tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
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02-08-2017, 06:03 PM
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Name: MBusse
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Were running a v band off the charger to a flex bellow with a boot off the intercooler.
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02-08-2017, 06:21 PM
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Name: 97rada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MBusse
Were running a v band off the charger to a flex bellow with a boot off the intercooler.
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Picture please.
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Austin
tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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02-08-2017, 08:31 PM
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Name: MBusse
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Not done yet. Waiting on manifold. Lyn is the one who suggested this setup, I couldn't find a fancy vibrant clamp that I thought would work for me.
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02-09-2017, 07:17 AM
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Name: jlbayes
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I vbanded the outlet on my secondary, 3" straight coupler off that to another stainless pipe and then to a 3-3.5" straight coupler. Been holding over 100psi that way. I switched both intercooler couplers to straights. Seemed to have solved my exploding 45*s.
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02-09-2017, 07:28 AM
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Bellows help but they are far too stiff to count on them 100% IMO. Napa radiator hose, good clamps, and a strap is always a pretty dependable setup.
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02-09-2017, 11:19 AM
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Name: Tate
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Quote:
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Not done yet. Waiting on manifold. Lyn is the one who suggested this setup, I couldn't find a fancy vibrant clamp that I thought would work for me.
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Vibrant Performance ::.
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02-09-2017, 11:20 AM
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Name: homewrecker
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Or Wiggins clamp.
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02-09-2017, 11:57 AM
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Name: 97rada
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Going to suck it up and run a boot. It's easier for now
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tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
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02-10-2017, 09:09 AM
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02-10-2017, 10:30 AM
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I checked these out in Vibrants booth at PRI show in Indy. Really nice piece and seemed to allow quite a bit of movement.
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02-12-2017, 09:21 PM
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Name: 97rada
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Quote:
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I checked these out in Vibrants booth at PRI show in Indy. Really nice piece and seemed to allow quite a bit of movement.
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Mine has one off the manifold turbo and it's pretty amazing. Royal pain to assemble though.
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Austin
tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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02-13-2017, 07:14 PM
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Name: Tate
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So why not go all the way with them? No more popped boots, and you already know how they work. I will agree on them being a pain to assemble though.
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02-13-2017, 08:30 PM
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Name: 97rada
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Quote:
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So why not go all the way with them? No more popped boots, and you already know how they work. I will agree on them being a pain to assemble though.
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If I did solid mounts I would have just done vbands. I need solid mounts though. I will have straps on the boots. I hated doing it but it is what it is
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Austin
tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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02-14-2017, 10:25 AM
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Name: crzycowboy
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The boots are used since they offer a wider range of movement, in the commercial use at least. What kind of bellow were you thinking of using? It's been our experience that bellows pipe like this:
http://www.grpipes.com/catalogs/GrandRock2015v2i1.pdf (pg90 on the PDF)
Have a very limited range, and it's only in 1 direction really. Bellows like this will break when it exceeds that range of motion. I think it's been documented here the lengths we offer are 3 degree of movement. I would have to double check that for sure.
The shorter the bellow, the less range it has obviously. I suppose knowing how much this stuff will move while it's under power would tell you the best set up to use?
Just my
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