I am building a diesel-powered boat for endurance and marathon racing in Europe. The boat will be built in the states, and dialed-in and raced a little before being shipped to Britain, where it will be campaigned in Europe in A-B and marathon races.
The boat will measure 45'± with a burden of ±#17-18,000 and the design conditions are: run 60+kts for 6+hours in 6'seas (12' crest to trough.)
This will be a Summer 2014 project, and I am still collecting info and thoughts. The Hull has not been commissioned yet, but the gross power design is pretty stable: two 'B' Cummins, low in the hull, nose-to-nose on the centerline. Power will be delivered through a Weismann 6- or 8-speed tranny with a modest OD, through straight shafts, and steered by a single rudder. Closed cooling, water-to-water exchange, engine & transmission oil will be dry-sump and both cooling and oil will have 'hurry-up' pumps and excess capacity.
The basic form will be Cummins B, but the only Cummins part will (likely) be the crank.
I have done a lot of reading and talking and looking at Cummins and FPT/IVECO ... essentially the same 6.7L engine, and it appears the 'natural' (not detuned for consumer use) horsepower for the 6.7L is 8-900-ish at 33-3400turns. I don't MIND more horsepower (if it is 'free') but 8-900 is sufficient.
That is enough for my needs, but I want an engine with known failure rates and predictable consumption. Target is 500hr turbo, 1000hr head, 2000top&bottom, and 2mi/gal, WOT. I am NOT a wrench artisté, and as far as I am concerned, 'maintenance' is clean, fresh fuel and changing fluids, filters and belts regularly.
Here is my 'projected' build, and there are some holes, yes, that I would like discussed, please.
- Cummins OE 6.7 crank.
- LSM Aluminum B block, with bed-plate and 124mm (6.7L) steel sleeves (or maybe a bit wider? LSM says that 8.3L diameter, 135mm will fit nicely.)
- LSM bushings and roller lifters pressed in as part of the build (why? dunno. LSM seems like they know what they are doing?)
- PolyDyn coatings, everywhere: retard oil, repel oil, retain heat, reject heat ...
- 'H' bearings
- Forged conn-rods (no idea on brands) with squirter holes.
- Pistons? my first thought is well-engineered steel. Aluminum? Whose?
- Head. Does anybody make HP CGI or aluminum 6.7L heads & headers? Assuming an OE head, plenum gone, etc., are there ('cost-free') advantages to larger valves, different seat material?
- APR fasteners, everywhere, of course.
- Does the valve-train guy design the cam? If not, who does?
- Whose injectors?
- Fuel system? At this point, I am thinking older Bosch, whose control codes are known to the ECM builder (who I have yet to select, btw), but I am not married to this idea.
- Turbo(s). One small f/t gated at 1 Bar, with a 2nd Turbo whose gain can be turned up to '11' if the water is flat and finish line is in sight.
Generally, I prefer to run a boat with isolated battery, hard-wired Pyrometer, Turbo-boost and Oil-pressure gauges, and everything else on a screen I can look at later. Yeah, I'll have a Bendix cable on the throttle-bodies, too, just-in-case ... why do you ask?
I don't mind spending money, but I only want to spend it once and I would appreciate any thoughts you have - including some I may not like, but I'll still appreciate.
Bob
The boat will measure 45'± with a burden of ±#17-18,000 and the design conditions are: run 60+kts for 6+hours in 6'seas (12' crest to trough.)
This will be a Summer 2014 project, and I am still collecting info and thoughts. The Hull has not been commissioned yet, but the gross power design is pretty stable: two 'B' Cummins, low in the hull, nose-to-nose on the centerline. Power will be delivered through a Weismann 6- or 8-speed tranny with a modest OD, through straight shafts, and steered by a single rudder. Closed cooling, water-to-water exchange, engine & transmission oil will be dry-sump and both cooling and oil will have 'hurry-up' pumps and excess capacity.
The basic form will be Cummins B, but the only Cummins part will (likely) be the crank.
I have done a lot of reading and talking and looking at Cummins and FPT/IVECO ... essentially the same 6.7L engine, and it appears the 'natural' (not detuned for consumer use) horsepower for the 6.7L is 8-900-ish at 33-3400turns. I don't MIND more horsepower (if it is 'free') but 8-900 is sufficient.
That is enough for my needs, but I want an engine with known failure rates and predictable consumption. Target is 500hr turbo, 1000hr head, 2000top&bottom, and 2mi/gal, WOT. I am NOT a wrench artisté, and as far as I am concerned, 'maintenance' is clean, fresh fuel and changing fluids, filters and belts regularly.
Here is my 'projected' build, and there are some holes, yes, that I would like discussed, please.
- Cummins OE 6.7 crank.
- LSM Aluminum B block, with bed-plate and 124mm (6.7L) steel sleeves (or maybe a bit wider? LSM says that 8.3L diameter, 135mm will fit nicely.)
- LSM bushings and roller lifters pressed in as part of the build (why? dunno. LSM seems like they know what they are doing?)
- PolyDyn coatings, everywhere: retard oil, repel oil, retain heat, reject heat ...
- 'H' bearings
- Forged conn-rods (no idea on brands) with squirter holes.
- Pistons? my first thought is well-engineered steel. Aluminum? Whose?
- Head. Does anybody make HP CGI or aluminum 6.7L heads & headers? Assuming an OE head, plenum gone, etc., are there ('cost-free') advantages to larger valves, different seat material?
- APR fasteners, everywhere, of course.
- Does the valve-train guy design the cam? If not, who does?
- Whose injectors?
- Fuel system? At this point, I am thinking older Bosch, whose control codes are known to the ECM builder (who I have yet to select, btw), but I am not married to this idea.
- Turbo(s). One small f/t gated at 1 Bar, with a 2nd Turbo whose gain can be turned up to '11' if the water is flat and finish line is in sight.
Generally, I prefer to run a boat with isolated battery, hard-wired Pyrometer, Turbo-boost and Oil-pressure gauges, and everything else on a screen I can look at later. Yeah, I'll have a Bendix cable on the throttle-bodies, too, just-in-case ... why do you ask?
I don't mind spending money, but I only want to spend it once and I would appreciate any thoughts you have - including some I may not like, but I'll still appreciate.
Bob