Is 2.5 a step back for pullers?

[USARMY12V]

The biggest thing with 2.5 and it being an up and coming class is (from my experience) it's a hell of a lot cheaper to run a newer electronically injected truck. It's a lot easier to squeeze the last inch out of a dynamically timed truck that you are able to completely port and polish (I.e. V8's) than it is in a mechanically injected Dodge for instance where it says specifically "stock shelf" or "shelf style." It's a rule almost across all 2.5 rule books that is a direct dig at Dodge's. It's already easier to cheat with a turbo on a V8 due to piping that on the Cummins. I know people who have ran S475 but the techs were too lazy to tech them (or perhaps they knew the owners) while others are running legal 2.5 turbos. Here in VA and from what I have seen in NC as well the 2.5 class might as well be called the CP3 and Ford class. Not many 12V's in 2.5 here due to the rules. I feel like I'd be better off building my 2010 for 2.5 than my 98...

[zstroken]

Originally Posted by USARMY12V

The biggest thing with 2.5 and it being an up and coming class is (from my experience) it's a hell of a lot cheaper to run a newer electronically injected truck. It's a lot easier to squeeze the last inch out of a dynamically timed truck that you are able to completely port and polish (I.e. V8's) than it is in a mechanically injected Dodge for instance where it says specifically "stock shelf" or "shelf style." It's a rule almost across all 2.5 rule books that is a direct dig at Dodge's. It's already easier to cheat with a turbo on a V8 due to piping that on the Cummins. I know people who have ran S475 but the techs were too lazy to tech them (or perhaps they knew the owners) while others are running legal 2.5 turbos. Here in VA and from what I have seen in NC as well the 2.5 class might as well be called the CP3 and Ford class. Not many 12V's in 2.5 here due to the rules. I feel like I'd be better off building my 2010 for 2.5 than my 98...

Cut the intake off, port away, weld it back on.

[USARMY12V]

Still doesn't allow individual runners. Restriction should be no A/W. Not application based differences.

[ComnRailPwr]

With a small 2.5 charger limit, not having individual runners isn't going to be the deciding factor between winning and taking the silver. Here in Ohio we allow no runner intakes, no A/W but we do allow porting and bolting on a shelf style intake.

[USARMY12V]

Of course you allow porting, that's not the issue here. The issue is the discrepancies between brands here.

[USARMY12V]

What's legal in VA for 2.5 might not be in OH or IN is my point here and most directly this effects Cummins owners. Some say specifically "stock shelf left intact" then even welding could be construed as grounds for DQ. The transparency of 2.5 from one area to another is awful.

[nlsd206]

2.5 is definitely killing the 2.6 class. In SW Ohio almost all of the guys that were 2.6 are 2.5 now. So now none of the guys off the street even have a fighting chance at winning.

[FastOrange]

I understand the idea of duel pumps... 2 pumps are more reliable then a big single.. I mean when they make a modified single these days that can make almost 1k hp... might as well let duel pumps in because its cheaper and more reliable.. To be honest, it sounds to me the 2.5 class was just meant to sell more turbos

[c_houchins8_182]

I don't get why they put any kind of fuel limits on any classes. Classes are divided up by turbo and not by the amount of fuel you can put through your pump/pumps.

[ecc_33]

Originally Posted by c_houchins8_182

I don't get why they put any kind of fuel limits on any classes. Classes are divided up by turbo and not by the amount of fuel you can put through your pump/pumps.

X1000!!!! Thank you. I have been saying this for years. Just makes for more cp3 sales and injector sales when you trash them a couple times a year. You limit the class by air. A 13mm ppump can supply enough fuel for tons of air but limiting the common rails to one pump is just rediculous.

[RockinRam96]

Teching multiple CP3s is easy, how would you tech a 13 mm pump vs a 12 mm pump?

Rules need to be made that are easily teachable and ENFORCED! Enforcement is the issue. You need to have tech officials that care about where the class needs to stay!

My thoughts, limit the class to a 12.5 tire, no duallies, no hanging weight but allow pullers to add weight in the box, no air to water coolers, box stock S400, allow dual CP3s and 13 mm pumps and allow the intake runner to be milled off.

Turbos should be teched once a year and sealed. After that if the seal is broken your DQed.

[USARMY12V]

I have not personally seen limits placed on pump size, however no A pumps are allowed. Duals I think should not be limited as there are obviously stock dually truck made. Allow duals if people want them, individual runners, and dual pumps. It should be easy to jump from 2.5 to 2.6 if people want to. This would allow both classes to coexist as well as have people compete in both.

[aggar]

The payout is the reason I go out and get sponsors for my pull. They provide the money for the purse. I'm planning in having a ws, 2.5. 2.6 and open/3.0 depending if I can get the 3.0 trucks to commit. And a gas class.

I know it costs a lot of money to build a 2.6 and 3.0 truck. That's why I try and get as much money as possible to have a payout worth coming for. The 2.5 class is atill a step above the ws bc of dual pumps and hanging weight. When I startd pulling in 08 I ran the stock class and then in 09 went up to 2.6 with a stock motor Lbz with a turbo and pumps. It was fun but I knew I couldn't keep up with the big boys in the class on my stock motor. So I just sold the pump and went down to the ws class.

What is a good payout that would bring in good 2.6 and 3.0 trucks? $1000 to win?

[house]

2K TO WIN
sad is now 2.5 trucks are all most as much as a 2.6

[aggar]

House I don't have that much money to pay out.

[house]

1k still should attract though

[aggar]

I'm thinking 1000-1200 to win and pay back 5-6 spots

[bigsexy7.3]

What kind of power are you all seen out your 2.5 trucks out east?