90dodge
Always Broke
From a customer standpoint, I've always felt the same about a business. LOL
The ball rolls both ways.
To the op, do you still have the texts?
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Id like my money back please
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The ball rolls both ways.
To the op, do you still have the texts?
maxwedgehead
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I purchased a motor from Ashley for a customer and just installed it the other day and it sounds and runs perfect, everytime I've talked to him on the phone he always seems like a nice guy
1stgensleeper
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How does Ashley know about details in this thread when he hasn't logged in in over a week?
9724VF350
Tractor Guy
That's easy to do. Anyone can see this discussion, it's not in a members only area.
What texts?
90dodge
Always Broke
You said he was denying work on texts, and you had started communication with paper trails?
I dunno how im being an ass?? I had a deal with Ashley on a motor for a trade on a fully dressed 6.7 with a 12v crank,and 12v Brazil rods.he reached out to me when I decided to part the 6.7 out to try to get money to put a 12v in instead of a commo, rail to save myself money on my fummins swap..WHILE we were negotiating prices for the 6.u7 he kept go in lower and lower and lower on price because he didn't know if the cp3 was good,or the injectors were good.or whatever.ASHLEY brought up the idea of building me a 12v in TRADE for the 6.7 and 12v crank and rods..WHILE he was building the motor he said he had this crank on the shelf,asked if I wanted it for x amount of dollars.I said hell yeah why not..the deal also consisted of me getting a set of 5x12 injectors and 5x14 injectors..which after I ran my truck a while and started trouble shooting found out I had a set of 5x12 and 5x10 (stock215) injectors..he sent me a set of 5x14s and made that right..I also paid extra for a set of arp studs (which showed up just fine)..after motor showed up I asked what all was done.he gave me a list I asked for a build sheet,he said hed have to get one..I asked for months and months..before I got one..the flycuts and this and that I was TOLD I had in a conversation..I DIDNT KNOW WHY..
Not until after I started questioning this,is pointing out that did he mention ANYTHING about the 6.7 crank getting ruined from a bad bearing..and when he did mention it YES I SAID I WOULD GET HIM A NEW CRANK.I told him it would take me a while to be able to afford it because they're not,cheap but I would definitely try .but after finding my pump was ****,injectors were bad,springs not all there,factory locks and retainers,and stock cam..I don't care if he rides that crank like sea biscuit gear side first..
Like I said I have no reason to lie about this..none..I've spent thousands of dollars on building myself a new motor with PARTS I KNOW I HAVE..my truck hes been down a year now because like I stated before I can't spend every minute and every dollar on my truck..I have a family and a job...this is what happen to me..if y'all have good experiences with ashley..great..mine wasn't so great though..
Not until after I started questioning this,is pointing out that did he mention ANYTHING about the 6.7 crank getting ruined from a bad bearing..and when he did mention it YES I SAID I WOULD GET HIM A NEW CRANK.I told him it would take me a while to be able to afford it because they're not,cheap but I would definitely try .but after finding my pump was ****,injectors were bad,springs not all there,factory locks and retainers,and stock cam..I don't care if he rides that crank like sea biscuit gear side first..
Like I said I have no reason to lie about this..none..I've spent thousands of dollars on building myself a new motor with PARTS I KNOW I HAVE..my truck hes been down a year now because like I stated before I can't spend every minute and every dollar on my truck..I have a family and a job...this is what happen to me..if y'all have good experiences with ashley..great..mine wasn't so great though..
Blacksdieselhp
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Sorry for the delay. I was just made aware of this. I really dont have time to elaborate at the moment as we are extremely busy. I will go through as brief as possible.
We did decide to trade as he said. He sent me a 6.7 that was supposed to low miles and ready to run. It had spun bearings and the crank was trashed and the cylinders were rusted. Needless to say the fuel system got used as cores because I was afraid to try them in anything. He got just what the paper said(aside from the 600 finish, not sure why they put that on there). A fresh 12v with all the specs listed. The camshaft was one of the very first cams that was available for purchase. It is of course a regrind. It was purchased 15 years or so ago. It was laying on the shelf, so i offered it to him in the trade. I never checked the specs. So I honestly cant say for sure what they are. I do know it had a bolt on gear retainer. On the injectors, they were done by a place called extrude hone. Many years ago as well. They were sold to me as the sizes I sold them as. Again, I didnt have them tested. So thats why I sent him a free set when he told me one set was wrong. On the springs, we did them as usual and added 60# springs. We used to do just the exhaust side, but now I always do them on intake and exhaust. I see in the pic it only has them on the exhaust side. I didnt assemble this one myself, so Im not sure why it has them on exhaust only. This is one reason our turnaround time takes a little longer now days. Because I put my hands on every build and inspect them before they go out. Some customer get a little impatient, but this is the only way for me to control quality. I have tried to do the right thing with this customer, but over time and with some of the demands, this deal just got rediculous. And just an FYI, I offered to have the engine sent back after they damaged a piston on the dyno or whatever and see if I could help repair and save money. Even though that was out of my hands.
If I need to send a cam and set of valve springs to make it right then so be it. Lets do it and move on. I didnt intentionally send anything out that wasnt what it was supposed to be. If the cam is a stock grind with a bolt on retainer, then I got screwed as well as you did. Because I purchased it as a performance street cam. On the injectors, Ive already sent you a free set of the correct size. Whatever I sent you the first time is what I was told when I purchased them. The springs, thats my fault. I should have noticed. Cut pistons, I really dont even remember that part. Maybe I had some on the shelf and I mentioned them to you, but decided they werent necessary? IIRC, some of these upgrades were just offered for free as I had them on the shelf and wanted to pass them along to someone who could use them.
The longer this kind of thread goes on, the more foolish crap that will be said. Its inevitable. You will look like a fool at some point. As well as me and most everyone else that wants to pick a side and jump on.
We did decide to trade as he said. He sent me a 6.7 that was supposed to low miles and ready to run. It had spun bearings and the crank was trashed and the cylinders were rusted. Needless to say the fuel system got used as cores because I was afraid to try them in anything. He got just what the paper said(aside from the 600 finish, not sure why they put that on there). A fresh 12v with all the specs listed. The camshaft was one of the very first cams that was available for purchase. It is of course a regrind. It was purchased 15 years or so ago. It was laying on the shelf, so i offered it to him in the trade. I never checked the specs. So I honestly cant say for sure what they are. I do know it had a bolt on gear retainer. On the injectors, they were done by a place called extrude hone. Many years ago as well. They were sold to me as the sizes I sold them as. Again, I didnt have them tested. So thats why I sent him a free set when he told me one set was wrong. On the springs, we did them as usual and added 60# springs. We used to do just the exhaust side, but now I always do them on intake and exhaust. I see in the pic it only has them on the exhaust side. I didnt assemble this one myself, so Im not sure why it has them on exhaust only. This is one reason our turnaround time takes a little longer now days. Because I put my hands on every build and inspect them before they go out. Some customer get a little impatient, but this is the only way for me to control quality. I have tried to do the right thing with this customer, but over time and with some of the demands, this deal just got rediculous. And just an FYI, I offered to have the engine sent back after they damaged a piston on the dyno or whatever and see if I could help repair and save money. Even though that was out of my hands.
If I need to send a cam and set of valve springs to make it right then so be it. Lets do it and move on. I didnt intentionally send anything out that wasnt what it was supposed to be. If the cam is a stock grind with a bolt on retainer, then I got screwed as well as you did. Because I purchased it as a performance street cam. On the injectors, Ive already sent you a free set of the correct size. Whatever I sent you the first time is what I was told when I purchased them. The springs, thats my fault. I should have noticed. Cut pistons, I really dont even remember that part. Maybe I had some on the shelf and I mentioned them to you, but decided they werent necessary? IIRC, some of these upgrades were just offered for free as I had them on the shelf and wanted to pass them along to someone who could use them.
The longer this kind of thread goes on, the more foolish crap that will be said. Its inevitable. You will look like a fool at some point. As well as me and most everyone else that wants to pick a side and jump on.
Ok so with what you just said.."you didn't assemble the motor yourself" is it possible that things,were left out..
I gave you credit for the injectors..you did make that right..but the springs and cam....those were not right.the cam was an extra charge also it wasn't thrown in..I'll look through bank statements and PayPal to figure that out..350 rings a bell..
I was discussing this last night with a fellow member and the thought came up that maybe this,motor was one of a,few that was built and it was shipped to wrong person?? I don't know..I do know that what I was told I had and what I received were not the same..I'm sorry but they weren't..
I gave you credit for the injectors..you did make that right..but the springs and cam....those were not right.the cam was an extra charge also it wasn't thrown in..I'll look through bank statements and PayPal to figure that out..350 rings a bell..
I was discussing this last night with a fellow member and the thought came up that maybe this,motor was one of a,few that was built and it was shipped to wrong person?? I don't know..I do know that what I was told I had and what I received were not the same..I'm sorry but they weren't..
zfaylor
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On the cam, just an FYI to both of you but there are stock cummins cams with bolt on retainers. Came in many industrial apps. I have a few on my shelf. Years ago people claimed they were an upgrade for the automotive apps. That wasn't the case.
Just to help clarify what might have been going on there.
Just to help clarify what might have been going on there.
Blacksdieselhp
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Im almost positive I could dig the receipt up for the cam where I purchased it and what it was sold to me as. But to be honest, the time it would take and the respect I have for the place I purchased it from, it would be better for me to just send you a new cam. If thats what you think is fair, then lets get it done. Im not worried so much about the cost, but I want you to understand that I have not sold you anything knowing that it was incorrect. I do not do that. I do not plan on being in this business for a short period of time.
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