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02-01-2017, 11:13 PM
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Name: WAYNES WORLD
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What fuel pump?
Guys,
What fuel pump are you running with a 13mm pump?
Will a raptor 150 be enough ?
WAYNES WORLD
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I2v, SD twins, marine pistons, hamilton cam, Farrell tuned pump 13mm, my plate, 24*, Goerend trans, VB & TD con, Cal trac, painted & coated engine, nice leather, -- Now a Lil Pete body
2008 6.7 just added EFI Live & RevMax complete with Goerend Triple, Flex plate
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02-02-2017, 02:37 AM
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Name: Levi_plummer
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I run an aeromotive eliminator and question if it's enough. I would recomend a gear driven pump.
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92 W250 sclb. "Jinny" 962/1472. 7.08@98mph RIP..
96 sclb 4x4 new racetruck in the making
97 sclb 4x4 tow rig
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02-02-2017, 08:29 AM
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Name: diesel_importer
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FASS 240 would probably do it, if you're going electric. I'm sure the heavy hitters will say gear driven, though.
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02-02-2017, 08:43 AM
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Name: kole32
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Recently had my 12v with a farrel built 13mm on the engine dyno and at 1005hp it was drawing fuel pressure down to 18 psi with an a1000 gonna try an eliminator next Saturday on the dyno and see if it helps.
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1993 w250, 215hp pump benched by Seth. 5ks. Hamilton valve springs, colt 181/218 cam, fire ringed head. Airdog 150 at 45psi torktek ofv 6x16 injectors, timing is roughly 30*. S366 soon to have a s475 with it.
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02-02-2017, 08:59 AM
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Name: 2Tone12V
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Depends how good the 13mm pump is and what kind of volume you're going to run it at. What size injectors?
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02-02-2017, 09:07 AM
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Name: kole32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Tone12V
Depends how good the 13mm pump is and what kind of volume you're going to run it at. What size injectors?
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I had a set of 5x20 dual feed harts. I was also running a tork tek ofv. Changing to an aeromotive style regulator as well.
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1993 w250, 215hp pump benched by Seth. 5ks. Hamilton valve springs, colt 181/218 cam, fire ringed head. Airdog 150 at 45psi torktek ofv 6x16 injectors, timing is roughly 30*. S366 soon to have a s475 with it.
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02-02-2017, 09:58 AM
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Name: kxhonda
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I also did 990hp with an A1000 and aeromotive regulator and a 13mm pump with 6x16's. Fuel pressure was pulled down to 45 psi. I'd say if your planning on going over 1k hp, just plan on going with the Eliminator if you're going the aeromotive route.
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1999 3500 Ext. Cab, 5spd, 13mm pump, 6x16's, A1000
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02-02-2017, 03:03 PM
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Name: WAYNES WORLD
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What fuel pump
Guys,
Many thanks for the fuel pump answers--------!!!!
My 5x24's & 13mm pump flowing almost 900 cc need all I can get.
I'm working on the 1,000 hp idea.
kole32, let me know how your switch works out.
Thank You,
WAYNES WORLD
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I2v, SD twins, marine pistons, hamilton cam, Farrell tuned pump 13mm, my plate, 24*, Goerend trans, VB & TD con, Cal trac, painted & coated engine, nice leather, -- Now a Lil Pete body
2008 6.7 just added EFI Live & RevMax complete with Goerend Triple, Flex plate
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02-02-2017, 03:12 PM
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Name: Cummins12Club
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Fuel volume is just as important as fuel pressure. A raptor 150 is not going to cut it.
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02-02-2017, 03:28 PM
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Name: WAYNES WORLD
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What fuel pump
guys,
Who makes a mechanical fuel pump for 12v's?
WAYNES WORLD
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I2v, SD twins, marine pistons, hamilton cam, Farrell tuned pump 13mm, my plate, 24*, Goerend trans, VB & TD con, Cal trac, painted & coated engine, nice leather, -- Now a Lil Pete body
2008 6.7 just added EFI Live & RevMax complete with Goerend Triple, Flex plate
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02-02-2017, 03:29 PM
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Name: 9724VF350
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What RPM are you planning on running?
900cc at 5000 rpm would take 215 gph just to feed the plungers, that's not figuring in return fuel for cooling.
A pump that flows 250 at the pressure you want would work.
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97 F350 4X4 CC Dually 5spd 24V 913 S300/HT3B Ranch Hand.
Playtoy-Oliver 1655. 12V now  , 13mm, S475
Wife's ride-03 Excursion 12V swap in the works.
Last edited by 9724VF350; 02-02-2017 at 03:44 PM.
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02-02-2017, 04:19 PM
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Name: 2Tone12V
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You need to get a waterman and bolt it on to a billet front cover. Call D&J and get one. I just ordered one from them for my common rail.
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02-02-2017, 09:40 PM
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Name: WAYNES WORLD
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What fuel pump
Guys,
Wow-------Great info
Thanks for the calculations on 250 GPH.
Billet cover ?
Where do I find D&J?
WAYNES WORLD
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I2v, SD twins, marine pistons, hamilton cam, Farrell tuned pump 13mm, my plate, 24*, Goerend trans, VB & TD con, Cal trac, painted & coated engine, nice leather, -- Now a Lil Pete body
2008 6.7 just added EFI Live & RevMax complete with Goerend Triple, Flex plate
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02-02-2017, 10:16 PM
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Name: bigstacks95
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WAYNES WORLD
guys,
Who makes a mechanical fuel pump for 12v's?
WAYNES WORLD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WAYNES WORLD
Guys,
Wow-------Great info
Thanks for the calculations on 250 GPH.
Billet cover ?
Where do I find D&J?
WAYNES WORLD
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Sounds like some of you drag racin' guys gotta come visit us toothless folks over in the sled pulling section and get your reading glasses on  
Just Kidding. In all seriousness, most of us pullers run a mechanical pump (Waterman, DSR, Enderle) driven off a spud welded or bolted on to the front of the vacuum pump. There's tons of info on how to do this over in the sled pulling section, and there's even a fairly recent thread about Waterman plumbing in the engine tech forum that's kept coming up. It is surprisingly easy and cheap if you do your research and buy the right pump!!! Plus you'll never starve it...
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58 Dodge Power Wagon 3.0 Limited Pro Stock diesel pulling truck
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02-03-2017, 01:55 AM
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Name: WAYNES WORLD
Title: Too Much Time
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what fuel pump
Dave,
Good reply--------thanks
Unfortunately the site was down------will try to look that up tomorrow
WAYNES WORLD
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I2v, SD twins, marine pistons, hamilton cam, Farrell tuned pump 13mm, my plate, 24*, Goerend trans, VB & TD con, Cal trac, painted & coated engine, nice leather, -- Now a Lil Pete body
2008 6.7 just added EFI Live & RevMax complete with Goerend Triple, Flex plate
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02-03-2017, 04:51 AM
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Name: J-Pipes
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D&J precision machine
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2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.
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02-03-2017, 08:19 AM
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Name: bigstacks95
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WAYNES WORLD
Dave,
Good reply--------thanks
Unfortunately the site was down------will try to look that up tomorrow
WAYNES WORLD
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Keating Machine offers some nice stuff to do this as well. They offer the fuel pump drive and the front timing cover with the mount for a mechanical pump
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58 Dodge Power Wagon 3.0 Limited Pro Stock diesel pulling truck
2020 Ram 3500 HO/Aisin Laramie/night tow rig
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02-03-2017, 03:37 PM
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Name: 2Tone12V
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WAYNES WORLD
Guys,
Wow-------Great info
Thanks for the calculations on 250 GPH.
Billet cover ?
Where do I find D&J?
WAYNES WORLD
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D&J, Keating, Haisley, Scheid will have the front cover. I prefer to use the Waterman with the return. Scheid normally doesn't use that one. Get the hex welded on the vacuum pump, get the bronze regulators and run your lines and you are all set.
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02-03-2017, 04:30 PM
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Name: 9724VF350
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I've done a few like this. The auxiliary drive/power steering pump/typical waterman location runs 98% of engine speed. The fuel quality is better if you slow the pump down to 1/2 of engine speed and run a larger pump.
The two pumps down below were used for power steering and water injection.
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97 F350 4X4 CC Dually 5spd 24V 913 S300/HT3B Ranch Hand.
Playtoy-Oliver 1655. 12V now , 13mm, S475
Wife's ride-03 Excursion 12V swap in the works.
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02-03-2017, 05:21 PM
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Name: WAYNES WORLD
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What fuel pump
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9724VF350
I've done a few like this. The auxiliary drive/power steering pump/typical waterman location runs 98% of engine speed. The fuel quality is better if you slow the pump down to 1/2 of engine speed and run a larger pump.
The two pumps down below were used for power steering and water injection.
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9724VF350,
WOW-------great looking setup. But I have space restrictions. My Lil Pete still has the power steering & vacuum pump, although the vacuum pump is blocked off. I'm going to stay with an electric unit.
WAYNES WORLD
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I2v, SD twins, marine pistons, hamilton cam, Farrell tuned pump 13mm, my plate, 24*, Goerend trans, VB & TD con, Cal trac, painted & coated engine, nice leather, -- Now a Lil Pete body
2008 6.7 just added EFI Live & RevMax complete with Goerend Triple, Flex plate
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