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09-04-2013, 01:50 PM
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Name: bluthndr
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Lanes Car Show Dyno 2010 - YouTube
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Tried to embed it but I guess I'm not smart enough.
496/1068 on 38" tires
Slow spool because they tried to load it with the dyno brakes and I had the convertor locked before I stepped in it. It actually has great street manners and almost no smoke as long as you are gentle with the skinny pedal. When the wife drives it I get phone calls...
160 pump, 191s, no plate, tuned AFC, 20*, gutted grid heater, 4500 gov, 5x .014 JL injectors, airdog 150, 62/14 S300, stock cam. Fire rings and 14s with thicker gasket. Billet trans with ATS five-star convertor.
Suggestions welcome
Currently apart for head stud replacement (one broke from corrosion) and will likely not put it back the same as before (probably with an S475 or S480). It just sits and gets played with a few times a year anymore...
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09-04-2013, 04:01 PM
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Name: Big Blue24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluthndr
496/1068
160 pump, 191s, no plate, tuned AFC, 20*, gutted grid heater, 4500 gov, 5x .014 JL injectors, airdog 150, 62/14 S300, stock cam. Fire rings and 14s with thicker gasket. Billet trans with ATS five-star convertor.
Suggestions welcome
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Add more fuel pressure, add more timing, add either larger injectors (5x.018" or larger delivery valves Comp Cut DV's), add a rack plug, max-out the pump barrels.
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95' 2wd Junker Drag Truck
1502 HP Fuel-Only 12mm P7100 Pump
SXE 472 over GTX55 116mm 
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09-04-2013, 04:56 PM
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#103
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Name: bluthndr
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Originally Posted by Big Blue24
Add more fuel pressure, add more timing, add either larger injectors (5x.018" or larger delivery valves Comp Cut DV's), add a rack plug, max-out the pump barrels.
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The pump has been benched. 380-525ccs is what the sheet i got back with it said. I guess I don't know what DVs it has - I sent it to them with "laser cuts" at the time, and the ones it came back with were 191s?
I have some 5x.016 and dual feed 5x.018 injectors also, but haven't used them yet since I thought it'd be too much for my single to clean up and the truck is on the street a fair amount. Maybe when I put it back together I will try them.
Any idea how much timing to start at? 22*? 36*? I realize every truck is different.
Also, what's the best way to up the fuel pressure on a ad150? Stretch the spring in under the fitting?
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09-04-2013, 07:11 PM
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Name: 92dak_r6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluthndr
The pump has been benched. 380-525ccs is what the sheet i got back with it said. I guess I don't know what DVs it has - I sent it to them with "laser cuts" at the time, and the ones it came back with were 191s?
I have some 5x.016 and dual feed 5x.018 injectors also, but haven't used them yet since I thought it'd be too much for my single to clean up and the truck is on the street a fair amount. Maybe when I put it back together I will try them.
Any idea how much timing to start at? 22*? 36*? I realize every truck is different.
Also, what's the best way to up the fuel pressure on a ad150? Stretch the spring in under the fitting?
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Ide say start with 26-28* and I think AD sells springs for higher pressure for <$5.
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09-04-2013, 07:42 PM
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Name: will24
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your set up plus dyno numbers 12 valve only.
534hp / 1093 ft lbs.
97 12 valve 5 speed
3k springs
#10 tst plate
60# valve springs
Don M hot rod 370s
19 degrees timing
62mm 14cm^2 IIS phat shaft 62
Fire ringed head with ARP studs
AFE air filter
4" exhaust
Stock manifold, stock intake horn, stock intercooler boots, stock lift pump, stock cam
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09-04-2013, 09:47 PM
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Name: B18B1LS1
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180 pump with no plate
hx40-18.5cm/ht3b-32cm twins
022 dv's
DDP4's
19*
4GSK
stock lift pump with Aeromotive regulator holding 30 psi
Mack rack plug
590/1050 at around 3200 rpms. Couldn't get on top of the turbos quick enough with the little rollers on this particular dynojet.
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'03 2500 QCLB 4x4 -- work truck
'98 Camaro Z28 -- s475 and 10.50@130 so far...
'92 Wrangler -- lifted locked and stretched
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09-10-2013, 07:44 AM
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Name: Gasoline Sucks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by will24
534hp / 1093 ft lbs.
97 12 valve 5 speed
3k springs
#10 tst plate
60# valve springs
Don M hot rod 370s
19 degrees timing
62mm 14cm^2 IIS phat shaft 62
Fire ringed head with ARP studs
AFE air filter
4" exhaust
Stock manifold, stock intake horn, stock intercooler boots, stock lift pump, stock cam
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Runs like this have my hopes up for my truck. What dyno was this done on?
I'm dual feeding my pump and adding a big primary soon. Shooting for mid 6s.
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09-10-2013, 11:55 AM
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#108
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Name: will24
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Originally Posted by Gasoline Sucks
Runs like this have my hopes up for my truck. What dyno was this done on?
I'm dual feeding my pump and adding a big primary soon. Shooting for mid 6s.
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DGR Performance in Dillsburg, PA It's a dynojet, repeatable. Same dyno the Dmitiri vs East coast thing happened on. I don't remember the model number
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09-11-2013, 06:13 AM
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Name: madmikeismad
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Originally Posted by Gambler
Ok, so I've been reading this thread and there are some nice numbers!
I guess I'm missing something. Two weeks ago on an Inertia dyno, I put down 430/1128.
Guy running dyno said he was having an issue getting it loaded, said if my brakes were better I'd probably see another 50hp. My plate is a 100 and it was full fwd. I felt I would put down better numbers. The truck is my signature.
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Not picking on you, but in your sig it says you have a plate, and a mack plug. Why? Or do you sometimes get frisky and pull the plate?
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09-11-2013, 06:20 AM
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Name: madmikeismad
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So has anyone made over 750 yet with the 67.7? I'm curious as to why the 62's and 64's seem to be spanking them.
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09-11-2013, 06:35 AM
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Name: ahale2772
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Its probably just lack of info, there has to be a few CR's that have done over 800 with them.
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94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
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09-11-2013, 06:54 AM
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Name: madmikeismad
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Originally Posted by ahale2772
Its probably just lack of info, there has to be a few CR's that have done over 800 with them.
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I would think so! I just want a good 750 with it.
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09-11-2013, 06:57 AM
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Name: ahale2772
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Math trumps dyno posts on Compd lol... Its got all the air to do 750 or more.
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94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
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09-11-2013, 07:17 AM
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Name: madmikeismad
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Originally Posted by ahale2772
Math trumps dyno posts on Compd lol... Its got all the air to do 750 or more. |
True, but since I'm never the first for anything cool, I'd assume someone has already done it, or it can't be done 
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09-11-2013, 10:07 PM
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Name: Gambler
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Originally Posted by madmikeismad
Not picking on you, but in your sig it says you have a plate, and a mack plug. Why? Or do you sometimes get frisky and pull the plate?
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Well, no offense taken ...I'm on here to try and learn and share in the same manner. Correct me if I'm wrong, the Mack plug extends my travel on the rack. I've read and spoke to folks about the fuel plate, some say yank it and some say keep it. I know I would gain about another 35cc of fuel if not a little more if I yanked it... what would be your advice?
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Bench Flowed 180-pump/ 375cc, Mack plug, 4gsk,
#60 springs, FASS 125@55psi, Colt Big Stick , II 62/s475, SD Man ,ARP studs, Fluid Damper, 5x.014 CPP and SB 3250
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09-11-2013, 11:16 PM
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Name: will24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gambler
Well, no offense taken ...I'm on here to try and learn and share in the same manner. Correct me if I'm wrong, the Mack plug extends my travel on the rack. I've read and spoke to folks about the fuel plate, some say yank it and some say keep it. I know I would gain about another 35cc of fuel if not a little more if I yanked it... what would be your advice?
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The Mack plug allows for more rack travel, the plates specific job is to limit rack travel based on RPM. More fuel does not equal more hp. Dyno it both ways and see where it's at. I pulled my plate once and picked up a mighty 3hp...
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09-11-2013, 11:17 PM
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Name: madmikeismad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gambler
Well, no offense taken ...I'm on here to try and learn and share in the same manner. Correct me if I'm wrong, the Mack plug extends my travel on the rack. I've read and spoke to folks about the fuel plate, some say yank it and some say keep it. I know I would gain about another 35cc of fuel if not a little more if I yanked it... what would be your advice?
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The mack plug gives you another ?2?mm of travel, while the plate limits max rack travel, so the mack plug is pointless if you're limiting travel elsewhere. I say take the plate out and sell it on cummins forum for an ungodly amount of money. Unless you are super heavily over fueled and actually need to limit your WOT fuel. Thats my perspective though
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09-11-2013, 11:18 PM
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Name: madmikeismad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by will24
The Mack plug allows for more rack travel, the plates specific job is to limit rack travel based on RPM. More fuel does not equal more hp. Dyno it both ways and see where it's at. I pulled my plate once and picked up a mighty 3hp...
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It does if you have the air for it.....
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09-11-2013, 11:33 PM
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#119
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Name: will24
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Originally Posted by madmikeismad
It does if you have the air for it.....
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I meant to put the word always in there... Otherwise I do agree with you
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09-12-2013, 07:18 AM
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Name: madmikeismad
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Originally Posted by will24
I meant to put the word always in there... Otherwise I do agree with you
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lol, you gotta be careful with words here
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