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03-25-2018, 09:11 AM
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Name: Smoke'm
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Dana 80 3.54 spool?
I have an 02 dodge 2500 I'm making into a puller. I have 3.54 gears and I'm looking to put a spool in the rear. I found a smoking deal on a Yukon 35 spline spool (4.10 and up). My question is there anyway to make this work?
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Paul
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03-25-2018, 12:00 PM
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Name: zstroken
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If you are pulling you probably want to ditch the 3.54 gears anyway.
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03-25-2018, 03:31 PM
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Name: Smoke'm
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Well I have a 6 speed and I read that running 4th 4Lo with 3.54s was the same as running a NV4500 5th 4Lo with 4.88s. Like I say I read that and I'm not sure if that's right or not.
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03-25-2018, 07:20 PM
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Name: zfaylor
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You want 4:10s or deeper pulling regardless of class for the most part.
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03-26-2018, 06:54 AM
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Name: bigstacks95
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You're gonna break stuff if you're running that steep of a gear in the rear and you're making halfway decent power. That being said if you're just looking to go have some fun for a couple hooks here and there, you'll be fine. But I certainly wouldn't waste my money on a spool for a couple hooks here and there.
To answer your question, there is no way the 4.10-up spool won't work with 3.54's
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03-27-2018, 11:49 AM
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Name: Smoke'm
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Okay thanks guys! Well this is pretty much going to be a dedicated puller. So what gears would be best for my NV5600?
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03-27-2018, 12:24 PM
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Name: turbo2387
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you would need to know what hp your making and where in the curve your making it, add some tire size and desired wheel speed and shazam! the R/P that will work best for you.
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03-27-2018, 06:24 PM
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Name: Smoke'm
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I'm in the middle of the a p pump swap 5k gsk. I should be around 800-850 hp. 33 12.50 on 16x10s.
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03-27-2018, 07:34 PM
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Name: odieub
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If it's like anyone around where I'm located . Swap that nv5600 for a nv4500. Loose 200lbs. Pick a ratio where you can pull in low 4th direct. Then you won't be pulling through the countershaft and it will live a lot longer. Not to mention if u break something in the tranny, easier to pull and a lot cheaper to repair much less finding someone to do it. And I've been told that the mainshaft in the 5 speed is stronger ? Have a buddy that could snap a mainshaft on his nv5600 almost every weekend. Went to a nv4500 and been 2 years no issues. 1000+ hp 2.6 truck.
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03-27-2018, 07:44 PM
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Name: Smoke'm
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Okay thank you for the input. I pulled low 4th with this truck with a stock vp and 3.54s last year so really have no idea which way to go! lol
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03-27-2018, 09:35 PM
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Name: bigstacks95
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4500 is definatly the way to go, if your 6 speed is good you could sell it, buy a 4500, and have a few dollars left over for a real good clutch. There is a handy gear ratio calculator excel file in one of the pinned threads in the sled pulling forum. Generally, an NV4500 in 4th with a 241 in low range works well with a 4.88, though I pulled for years with 5.13's with no problem, and some guys try 4.56. Any one of those should put you in the happy zone!
If its a dedicated puller you can save some coin and buy an open carrier for the 4.10 and up gears, then weld the spider gears in it. Cheaper than a spool and just as strong. Stay away from the factory trac-lock or posi carriers, they will break in half!!
Then get on the track and break some sh!t!!! You'll find your weak spots quick enough!!!
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03-27-2018, 10:07 PM
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Name: Smoke'm
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Haha alright thanks bigstacks95! What's a NV5600 with 0 issues and 114k original miles on it worth? lol
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03-28-2018, 06:37 AM
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Name: zfaylor
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A lot. They are worth a lot. I have seen them go as high as $4k by themselves and as low as $1500.
At that power 4:56 and 4th low on nv4500 should put you in the perfect spot with that power around our parts. What kind of material are your tracks? A sandy track vs a sticky track are two different animals obviously.
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03-28-2018, 07:38 AM
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Name: J-Pipes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoke'm
Haha alright thanks bigstacks95! What's a NV5600 with 0 issues and 114k original miles on it worth? lol
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When I swapped transmissions with the makin' bacon truck, I gave him my 5spd+ $800 or $900, can't remember exactly. 6spd had little over 100k miles if I remember correctly.
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03-28-2018, 09:16 AM
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Name: Smoke'm
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Quote:
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A lot. They are worth a lot. I have seen them go as high as $4k by themselves and as low as $1500.
At that power 4:56 and 4th low on nv4500 should put you in the perfect spot with that power around our parts. What kind of material are your tracks? A sandy track vs a sticky track are two different animals obviously.
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They are red clay mostly. Some places we run add sand to them.
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