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GreasemonkeyHd · 02-03-2018, 06:45 PM

I'm sure this has been talked about a million times but my phone will not let me search on this site which sucks, and I don't have a lap or desktop. I put a 190hp p pump 12v out of a blue bird bus in my 89 first gen dually. I just can't seem to find out for sure if my pump is an 11mm or 12mm m, what it has to idle at, and whether it's worth a crap to modify.

RacinDuallie · 02-03-2018, 07:44 PM

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9724VF350 · 02-03-2018, 08:56 PM

11mm
800 rpm idle
2500 rpm high idle
Not really

GreasemonkeyHd · 02-04-2018, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 9724VF350

11mm
800 rpm idle
2500 rpm high idle
Not really

Thanks I guess I'll be looking for a pump off of a second gen truck or saving for a 12mm dragon fly pump

GreasemonkeyHd · 02-04-2018, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RacinDuallie

Bosch P7100 pump information (collected) - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together

Thanks for the link

Destroked 450 · 02-04-2018, 09:32 PM

It's not a race pump but will make a good DD and under 400 hp towing pump.

GreasemonkeyHd · 02-04-2018, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroked 450

It's not a race pump but will make a good DD and under 400 hp towing pump.

Just seems super sluggish. I removed the fuel plate and cranked the starwheel. It made a difference I just was hoping for more. I'd rather buy a maxed 160,180,or 215 pump, or a 12mm dragonfly. I do tow and plow with her. She's my work truck as well as dd I just want more power. Motor has some blowby. I'd like to do a rebuild with a new pump and turbo this summer. Here are some pics of her

Destroked 450 · 02-05-2018, 10:49 AM

Governor spring kit will improve throttle response. For towing I like a 10 plate.
Boost elbow or boost controller to increase boost pressure will make a difference also.
The F-450 in my sig is my tow rig, my engine was a 190 hp industrial but a spun bearing had sent medal into the pump, was going to have it repaired but was able to get a good deal on a 215 pump, had some issues with it wanting to overfuel in the midrange.
I know a few others using 190 pumps in DD- work trucks with good results, as I said their just not big hp pumps but with proper tuning and a little bigger inj they'll do 300+.

GreasemonkeyHd · 02-07-2018, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroked 450

Governor spring kit will improve throttle response. For towing I like a 10 plate.
Boost elbow or boost controller to increase boost pressure will make a difference also.
The F-450 in my sig is my tow rig, my engine was a 190 hp industrial but a spun bearing had sent medal into the pump, was going to have it repaired but was able to get a good deal on a 215 pump, had some issues with it wanting to overfuel in the midrange.
I know a few others using 190 pumps in DD- work trucks with good results, as I said their just not big hp pumps but with proper tuning and a little bigger inj they'll do 300+.

What would you recommend for a governor spring ? I've read that the 3k kits don't do anything for these pumps because of the size of the governor weights. And what about injectors? Like I said I still tow with her and work her but I'd like more get up and go to surprise people

Destroked 450 · 02-07-2018, 01:43 PM

You could go with the 4k gsk and watch the rpm or install a set of 60 lb valve springs also.
Not sure what size inj a 190 comes with, I installed a set of 5x.012's but sometimes wish I'd only when with 5x.011's, still need to do some more tuning.
215 engines came with 5x.0105 inj, for a near stock towing engine I wouldn't go over a set of 5x.012's.

How much boost will it make?

GreasemonkeyHd · 02-07-2018, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroked 450

You could go with the 4k gsk and watch the rpm or install a set of 60 lb valve springs also.
Not sure what size inj a 190 comes with, I installed a set of 5x.012's but sometimes wish I'd only when with 5x.011's, still need to do some more tuning.
215 engines came with 5x.0105 inj, for a near stock towing engine I wouldn't go over a set of 5x.012's.

How much boost will it make?

My boost gauge only goes to 30. Before i blocked the wastegate line off it would only make 29 until the fuel fell off now it goes the past 30lb mark. I thought about throwing an oil pressure gauge on the boost line and get a rough idea what it makes. The turbo is a wh1c

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9724VF350 Name: 9724VF350 Title: Tractor Guy Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northeast Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,784	11mm 800 rpm idle 2500 rpm high idle Not really __________________ 97 F350 4X4 CC Dually 5spd 24V 913 S300/HT3B Ranch Hand. Playtoy-Oliver 1655. 12V now, 13mm, S475 Wife's ride-03 Excursion 12V swap in the works.

02-04-2018, 09:32 PM	#6
Destroked 450 Name: Destroked 450 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Harned,Ky. Member`s Gallery Posts: 340	It's not a race pump but will make a good DD and under 400 hp towing pump. __________________ Mine: 04 F-450 sc 4x4 fb drw 5.9 12v 215 ppump, zf6, kdp fixed, 3k gsk, AFC Live, super b single, pusher intake, d-celerator ebrake Hers:2018 F-150 sc 4x4 5.0 Farm trucks: 01 Z71 ext cab, 95 S10, 93 F-800 8.3 Cummins, 87 AM General 5 ton

02-05-2018, 10:49 AM	#8
Destroked 450 Name: Destroked 450 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Harned,Ky. Member`s Gallery Posts: 340	Governor spring kit will improve throttle response. For towing I like a 10 plate. Boost elbow or boost controller to increase boost pressure will make a difference also. The F-450 in my sig is my tow rig, my engine was a 190 hp industrial but a spun bearing had sent medal into the pump, was going to have it repaired but was able to get a good deal on a 215 pump, had some issues with it wanting to overfuel in the midrange. I know a few others using 190 pumps in DD- work trucks with good results, as I said their just not big hp pumps but with proper tuning and a little bigger inj they'll do 300+. __________________ Mine: 04 F-450 sc 4x4 fb drw 5.9 12v 215 ppump, zf6, kdp fixed, 3k gsk, AFC Live, super b single, pusher intake, d-celerator ebrake Hers:2018 F-150 sc 4x4 5.0 Farm trucks: 01 Z71 ext cab, 95 S10, 93 F-800 8.3 Cummins, 87 AM General 5 ton

02-07-2018, 01:43 PM	#10
Destroked 450 Name: Destroked 450 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Harned,Ky. Member`s Gallery Posts: 340	You could go with the 4k gsk and watch the rpm or install a set of 60 lb valve springs also. Not sure what size inj a 190 comes with, I installed a set of 5x.012's but sometimes wish I'd only when with 5x.011's, still need to do some more tuning. 215 engines came with 5x.0105 inj, for a near stock towing engine I wouldn't go over a set of 5x.012's. How much boost will it make? __________________ Mine: 04 F-450 sc 4x4 fb drw 5.9 12v 215 ppump, zf6, kdp fixed, 3k gsk, AFC Live, super b single, pusher intake, d-celerator ebrake Hers:2018 F-150 sc 4x4 5.0 Farm trucks: 01 Z71 ext cab, 95 S10, 93 F-800 8.3 Cummins, 87 AM General 5 ton