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10-31-2019, 10:29 AM
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Name: RacinDuallie
Title: Black Sheep Racing
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6.7 Block.
Is there a difference between a block casted for a dodge compared to one for a Freightliner?
Whats CGI block come in ?
Any 6.7's in the shed?
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10-31-2019, 10:39 AM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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Nothing significant is different between medium duty and Dodge.
CGI is definitely it's own critter.
Got a few Dodge pre-2019 blocks in the shed.
Mark.
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10-31-2019, 02:01 PM
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Name: RacinDuallie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Nixon
Nothing significant is different between medium duty and Dodge.
CGI is definitely it's own critter.
Got a few Dodge pre-2019 blocks in the shed.
Mark.
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Ummmmm. You realize your on a Supporting Vendors page ?
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10-31-2019, 02:50 PM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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Actually, no I didn't.
I picked it up from the main page.
Apologies to Mr. Jeff Mumau.
Mark.
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Anarchy: The state of existence where there are no masters & no slaves. Therefore, Anarchy means the ABSENCE OF SLAVERY, or, in other words, FREEDOM.
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10-31-2019, 04:16 PM
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Name: Snedge
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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We'll let it slide this time Mark.
You should look into a sponsorship of your own, I'm sure Tim and Phil could hook you up reasonable like. They've been very kind to me over the years. You get a bunch more room in your PM box, and your own forum space. I'm not sure if you're technically a business or not, but it seems like you have lots to offer.
I know you've got me out of a pinch or two.
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10-31-2019, 04:31 PM
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Name: RacinDuallie
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Cgi blocks already out there, in what though?
Need a Cummins guru....
Hmmmm.
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10-31-2019, 04:38 PM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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Jeff's your guy, for that info.
I understand, from a few postings here and otherwise, the CGI blocks are current in 2018 industrial apps.
Mark.
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Anarchy: The state of existence where there are no masters & no slaves. Therefore, Anarchy means the ABSENCE OF SLAVERY, or, in other words, FREEDOM.
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10-31-2019, 04:46 PM
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Name: zstroken
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I had a 6.7 out of a freightliner, that was rear gear drive. So crank was different, block had all sorts of oil holes on the back, lot of internals were similar though.
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11-01-2019, 06:58 AM
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Name: Snedge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zstroken
I had a 6.7 out of a freightliner, that was rear gear drive. So crank was different, block had all sorts of oil holes on the back, lot of internals were similar though.
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The older 5.9 6.7 blocks are identical except for the addition of a rear cam bushing.
The the Compacted graphite iron blocks are the new thing and I haven't had a chance to meet one on the inside. I'll post some sales flyers and such so yinz can read up.
The real big news is that as a Cummins dealer, I can no longer sell anything that was build specifically for the Dodge application.
Cummins 6.7L Turbo Diesel (2019) | Cummins Inc.
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11-01-2019, 07:06 AM
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Name: bigstacks95
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snedge
The real big news is that as a Cummins dealer, I can no longer sell anything that was build specifically for the Dodge application.
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Wow. That is huge news.
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11-01-2019, 07:41 AM
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Name: Snedge
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Originally Posted by bigstacks95
Wow. That is huge news.
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It is.
As far as engine hard parts such as pistons, cams cranks, heads, and what not we're good. It's just the accessory pieces that Daimler took away. They'll want the end user to be forced to the Mopar dealer.
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11-01-2019, 07:45 AM
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Name: bigstacks95
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snedge
It is.
As far as engine hard parts such as pistons, cams cranks, heads, and what not we're good. It's just the accessory pieces that Daimler took away. They'll want the end user to be forced to the Mopar dealer.
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When does this take effect? and does it backdate engines all the way to 1989? I know there are tons of parts Mopar claims are discontinued but are still available through Cummins such as the throttle linkage for a P Pump.
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11-01-2019, 08:10 AM
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Name: Snedge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigstacks95
When does this take effect? and does it backdate engines all the way to 1989? I know there are tons of parts Mopar claims are discontinued but are still available through Cummins such as the throttle linkage for a P Pump.
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It has been taking effect since the first quarter of 2019, and it goes all the way back to the beginning.
For a time I was buying as much of that stuff as I could from the warehouses, but sometime around June or July our distribution centers had to pull parts from inventory and send them to dodge warehouses. I doesn't hurt us too much because we do 100 times more heavy duty, and Midrange repairs than Dodges.
I wonder how places like Geno's and PDP will deal with it?
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11-01-2019, 01:24 PM
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Name: Snedge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigstacks95
I know there are tons of parts Mopar claims are discontinued but are still available through Cummins such as the throttle linkage for a P Pump.
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This is my worry.
The inventory is being sold back to Dodge. If they decide to resell the parts for the older trucks, even though they build new trucks everyday, they will be at a premium price. Or..discontinued/obsolete.
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11-01-2019, 02:11 PM
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Name: Cozze44
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Mopar must reallyyyyy be hurting, they are now forcing shops to pay a monthly subscription fee along with the one time cost to have software to do reprograms. Also, much of the newer software updates, and reflash compatibilities are not being given at all, and people are forced to go to a dealer now.
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11-01-2019, 02:30 PM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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I'm flashing back to my MoPar swap meet days, when you had a bunch of "NOS" dealers scalping everyone for stuff to restore their junk.
MoPar, as a whole is very paranoid of people making a few $$$ on stuff they long since abandoned.
Once it got popular and people started reproducing stuff, suddenly they were interested and screamed about copyrights.
You realize many of the OEMs are basically saying they OWN the ECMs, or at least the programs, on cars people have bought and paid for?
Basically, it's like property taxes, you never actually "OWN" anything.
Mark.
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If you or I did business like the PEOPLE in government do business, we'd be put in jail. Government is coercive.
Anarchy: The state of existence where there are no masters & no slaves. Therefore, Anarchy means the ABSENCE OF SLAVERY, or, in other words, FREEDOM.
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11-01-2019, 05:38 PM
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Name: zstroken
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snedge
The older 5.9 6.7 blocks are identical except for the addition of a rear cam bushing.
The the Compacted graphite iron blocks are the new thing and I haven't had a chance to meet one on the inside. I'll post some sales flyers and such so yinz can read up.
The real big news is that as a Cummins dealer, I can no longer sell anything that was build specifically for the Dodge application.
Cummins 6.7L Turbo Diesel (2019) | Cummins Inc.
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The 6.7 one I had, had a huge spot in the rear that was machined out to allow oil to flow in the rear gears.
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11-01-2019, 06:24 PM
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Name: BigPapa
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Just to clarify, Jeff, but we're only talking about Cummins parts that are used EXCLUSIVELY on Dodge trucks and nothing else, correct? If a part is used on ANY other application, it will still be a available from Cummins was what I understood. Many parts on our trucks are used in other applications. I know I see a lot of it with the school buses.
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11-01-2019, 08:22 PM
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Name: Snedge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapa
Just to clarify, Jeff, but we're only talking about Cummins parts that are used EXCLUSIVELY on Dodge trucks and nothing else, correct? If a part is used on ANY other application, it will still be a available from Cummins was what I understood. Many parts on our trucks are used in other applications. I know I see a lot of it with the school buses.
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Right.
Dodge exclusively.
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11-01-2019, 09:06 PM
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Name: RacinDuallie
Title: Black Sheep Racing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zstroken
The 6.7 one I had, had a huge spot in the rear that was machined out to allow oil to flow in the rear gears.
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The Compd derail.
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