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12-27-2015, 02:17 PM
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Name: clarkoh
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01 Excursion Fummins Trans choices
I am getting ready to swap out 300+ k 7.3 for 2004-1/2 CR. I am debating using a Dodge 48RE in it. Has anyone done this? Ultimately, I would like use a 5R110, but the expense of adapter, flex plate, core trans, rebuild and trans controller vs. 48RE (already have with flexplate and adapter) plus controller (if needed) and drive shift mods would be much cheaper. Could then afford some trans upgrades.
The engine is 325 hp with 100k. Engine control module (stick shift) is having Vin code deleted, as we speak. Excursion is 2wd and in great shape for 330,000 miles.
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01Excursion Fummins. 05 common rail with 48RE.
4" exhaust, custom air box
340K+ on truck, eng 90K.
00Ram 24 valve short bed
4"exhaust, lm25, air box, big inj
48 Dodge, 4BT, P pump, Ram frame, Dana 70, NV4500 Twin turbos, 5" exhaust still under construction
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12-27-2015, 06:39 PM
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Name: STROKETHISF350
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I would either do a 48 or 4r100. I wouldn't even consider the 5r and that's from personal experience with my previous truck
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12-27-2015, 10:25 PM
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Name: gorilla550
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I'd go with the dodge trans having the drive shaft shortened and yoke changed is lots less hassle.
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1999 Ford F550,72" ICT sleeper, 93 12v Cummins A518 trans.
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12-27-2015, 11:42 PM
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Name: R1raptor
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I would advise against the 5r not worth the hassle. I've give up on mine trying to get it to shift proper behind a 12 valve. When it quits I'm going 47re.
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12-28-2015, 10:24 AM
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Name: ENafziger
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Controlling the 5R behind a Cummins is tricky. A few seem to have gotten it to work; most don't. Mine worked for a few thousand miles. I replaced it with a ZF6 manual. I'm happy with it, but a 48 would be a good way to go as well.
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01-01-2016, 08:11 PM
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Name: Robts
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I used a 48re with a ford transfer case. I swapped out the input shaft on the transfer case to a dodge. Works perfect.
didn't shorten anything
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01-01-2016, 10:08 PM
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Name: HeTheAethyr!
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if your not planning for power, id run the 5R. I currently have one running in a 08 F550fummins service truck custom tuned with 20K+ miles on the package and its extremely nice to say the least. However, 4R's are way easier to tune than 5R's..
this service truck had serious turning pains to say the least. It was 25+ hours of tuning, driving it myself with the laptop and afterword's it would push out the input seal every other month draining the transmission. all the complaints have been resolved but the time it took vs the single afternoon with a 4R, pick your poison.
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01-02-2016, 11:28 AM
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Name: Gots_a_sol
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Hard to beat the simplicity of a hand shaker Plus the 3rd pedal bolts right in.
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00 Excursion - cummins/nv4500, he351cw
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01-02-2016, 01:01 PM
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Name: chevota84
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A 5r would be cool, but I don't think I'd go through the effort if it wasn't already in there. Personally, I think a 4r would be your best bet.
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01-03-2016, 07:14 PM
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Name: clarkoh
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My wallet and I decided to use a 48RE. The money saved will be put into a new converter, input shaft and valvebody. Has anyone done a Dodge trans. in a Fummins? Thanks for the replies.
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01Excursion Fummins. 05 common rail with 48RE.
4" exhaust, custom air box
340K+ on truck, eng 90K.
00Ram 24 valve short bed
4"exhaust, lm25, air box, big inj
48 Dodge, 4BT, P pump, Ram frame, Dana 70, NV4500 Twin turbos, 5" exhaust still under construction
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01-03-2016, 09:04 PM
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Name: gorilla550
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I have an A518 trans in the F550 I'm building going to have to shorten shaft and change the yoke.
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Reason: fix spelling
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01-04-2016, 11:32 AM
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Name: joefarmer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkoh
My wallet and I decided to use a 48RE. The money saved will be put into a new converter, input shaft and valvebody. Has anyone done a Dodge trans. in a Fummins? Thanks for the replies.
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I run a 47/48RE in my Fummins. I used it to design/test/daily drive the Anteater standalone transmission controller.
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01-15-2016, 07:02 PM
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Name: leeso
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I put a 05 CR in my f250 with the 48re and just swapped over the transfer cases and just put a B&M shifter on the floor.
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01-17-2016, 06:21 PM
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Name: clarkoh
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Originally Posted by joefarmer
I run a 47/48RE in my Fummins. I used it to design/test/daily drive the Anteater standalone transmission controller.
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I found the website. I am in love. I need the Anteater. Thanks for the reply. And take it that the 6 speed manual ECM will work fine.
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01Excursion Fummins. 05 common rail with 48RE.
4" exhaust, custom air box
340K+ on truck, eng 90K.
00Ram 24 valve short bed
4"exhaust, lm25, air box, big inj
48 Dodge, 4BT, P pump, Ram frame, Dana 70, NV4500 Twin turbos, 5" exhaust still under construction
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01-17-2016, 07:33 PM
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Name: Bobus
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I'm using a 47re in my '00 Excursion 12v. Plan to use the Anteater as well
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'11 F350 6.7l 4x4 CC LB
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01-18-2016, 12:54 PM
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Name: joefarmer
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Yes, manual '06 ECM is very happy in the race truck.
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01-18-2016, 01:02 PM
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Name: 9724VF350
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I rode in a CR/5R Ford, and it drove just like a stock truck. But, the installer went way over and beyond normal installation and programming methods to make it work that well.
All that being said, when I get around to this I will probably end up with a RH and a anteater.
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Wife's ride-03 Excursion 12V swap in the works.
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01-21-2016, 05:12 PM
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Name: Kick Start
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About what's the price of putting a cummins in an excursion?
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01-21-2016, 08:17 PM
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Name: STROKETHISF350
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kick Start
About what's the price of putting a cummins in an excursion?
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at least 10k easy but a lot depends on what trans you choose to go with and how much you can do yourself
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06 ram 3500 CCLB dually l 100% fleece injectors l ppe dual fuelers l Hamilton 188/220 l 103# valve springs l ported & oringed head l arp 425s l he 351 over 475 built by me l efi live l fass l full billet 48re built by me
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01-26-2016, 09:40 PM
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Name: AndrewCJohnston
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joefarmer
Yes, manual '06 ECM is very happy in the race truck.
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I am interested in putting a 6.7 in my Excursion with a 48RE. What is needed to run the 2006 5.9 ECM on the 6.7? Does the ECM control the 48RE or do I need the Anteater controller?
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