2015 ppl 2.6 rules - Page 23 - Competition Diesel.Com

TheHammer · 12-11-2014, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 97rada

Only one name in there really matters.

and the other one was put on the spot by "said name" at the rules meeting in regards to deckplate engine dyno results for this class........ and also has 3 or 4 of the last 5 years points champion in the class... so while on the surface that one may seem to dictate.. I listed the other 3 for a damn good reason.

DISTURBED · 12-11-2014, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokem

As far as the turbo rules are concerned, the name that matters is missing.

X100

TheHammer · 12-11-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokem

As far as the turbo rules are concerned, the name that matters is missing.

harts?

JL Builders · 12-11-2014, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHammer

harts?

Ding ding ding

TheHammer · 12-11-2014, 07:29 PM

by throwing patricks name up there I didn't list it, but my bad for associating the two.

kjpcummins · 12-12-2014, 08:00 AM

So is it legal to show up with a gutted bed in 2.6 since the rest of the chassis is gutted.

ramtough01 · 12-12-2014, 11:31 AM

The only way people are going to get the rules to change for any class is the have numbers at the meetings and to stand up and voice your thoughts of rules. At the PPL meeting for 2.6 rules there was only 6-8 people at the most in indy from the 2 people I knew that went to it.
But rules are that everything is the same but cant run bio fuel and no cutting or altering tires are the main things.

Yellow Jacket · 12-12-2014, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokem

As far as the turbo rules are concerned, the name that matters is missing.

Hart's or Precision?

smoke_4_me · 12-14-2014, 06:17 PM

Any word on when rules will be posted?

JerrodGlover · 12-18-2014, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokem

Rather than fix the issues with the class they decided to try and regulate what fuel is being used, which has already proven to be a challenge in NTPA. Since the weight will remain at 8,000lbs, and they plan to allow open driveline in 2016, how closely will OEM driveline be teched in 2015?

If open driveline is planed for 2016 why even bother with OEM stuff for 2015? Guys looking at running in 2015 don't want to send $10k on OE stuff just to cut it out and spend more money on stuff that doesn't break a few months later.

*Smokem* · 12-18-2014, 03:43 PM

It's should be rather obvious that common sense questions have no place when discussing sled pulling rules.

kleann · 12-18-2014, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JerrodGlover

If open driveline is planed for 2016 why even bother with OEM stuff for 2015? Guys looking at running in 2015 don't want to send $10k on OE stuff just to cut it out and spend more money on stuff that doesn't break a few months later.

I think we might just be part of one big economic stimulus plan.

zstroken · 12-18-2014, 05:06 PM

I am skeptical about the open driveline for 2.6 and the cut tires for 3.0. I think PPL just tells folks what they want to hear...

fullrut1514 · 12-18-2014, 08:57 PM

Would love to know the 2015 rules! Who can we bribe???

bubba2400 · 12-18-2014, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zstroken

I am skeptical about the open driveline for 2.6 and the cut tires for 3.0. I think PPL just tells folks what they want to hear...

Why would they care what the pullers think? They have tons of trucks show up to their events and they get pay checks for their TV deals. They will do what they want until they lose trucks or a sponsor, PERIOD. That is called being in the business of making money.

Richlmm · 12-19-2014, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba2400

Why would they care what the pullers think? They have tons of trucks show up to their events and they get pay checks for their TV deals. They will do what they want until they lose trucks or a sponsor, PERIOD. That is called being in the business of making money.

exactly itd take one event of boycotting to get the rules the way the pullers want them

rawdog · 12-20-2014, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Richlmm

exactly itd take one event of boycotting to get the rules the way the pullers want them

I would agree only we all know there would be a handfull of assholes that would be oblivious to the point being made. They would be the show

DISTURBED · 12-20-2014, 07:27 AM

You can boycott PPL 2.6 if you want but they are big enough just to drop the whole class from the national level. They have plenty of filler classes they can put in to take your spot.

gearhart73 · 12-20-2014, 07:32 AM

I don't see what all the complaining on this thread is trying to do. I keep hearing all this stuff about the PPL not listening to the pullers but there weren't very many trucks that made the commitment to run PPL schedule the last couple of years. Several of those top puller aren't having problems with their drivelines and didn't want the change. 20+ hooks isn't out of the question for 2.6 trucks. So PPL did listen to the people the made the commitment to run with them and did what they thought the majority of those pullers wanted. Maybe if you sent some more time of your chassis and gear setups you could make them live longer.
Open rearend is not going to be a fix all for your 2.6 problems. Now that everyone is going to try the mt tires and start breaking other parts and then you will all want open driveline. I witnessed more t-case failures this year than I did rear ends with people trying different things. Open driveline 2.6 would be ridiculous since the driveline is the most expensive and timely part about building a 3.0 truck that everyone complains about.
If you don't run PPL you don't have any reason to complain. If your local organization runs PPL runs then adapt them however you guys see fit and don't try to change everyone else's rules.
This whole boycott thing is kind of laughable to me since besides the 2 headlight events, TS and Scheid's, there are 10-15 trucks that consistently show up. The committed trucks are going to show up anyway so I really don't think it matters. 10-15 trucks is still a good show and 30+ is too many for a class for a promoters stand point.

JL Builders · 12-20-2014, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gearhart73

Open rearend is not going to be a fix all for your 2.6 problems. Now that everyone is going to try the mt tires and start breaking other parts and then you will all want open driveline. I witnessed more t-case failures this year than I did rear ends with people trying different things. Open driveline 2.6 would be ridiculous since the driveline is the most expensive and timely part about building a 3.0 truck that everyone complains about.

My understanding is 2016 will be ODL not just open rear.

And I disagree on ODL being the most expensive part of a 3.0 truck. ODL can be done for less than 10k. What does a fully built auto cost? 6-7k?

12-12-2014, 08:00 AM	#446
kjpcummins Name: kjpcummins Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: leon, ia Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,322	So is it legal to show up with a gutted bed in 2.6 since the rest of the chassis is gutted. __________________ 1997 2500 4x4 5spd 2011 2500 4x4 6spd

12-12-2014, 11:31 AM	#447
ramtough01 Name: ramtough01 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: wisconsin Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,775	The only way people are going to get the rules to change for any class is the have numbers at the meetings and to stand up and voice your thoughts of rules. At the PPL meeting for 2.6 rules there was only 6-8 people at the most in indy from the 2 people I knew that went to it. But rules are that everything is the same but cant run bio fuel and no cutting or altering tires are the main things. __________________ Jeff 2001 dodge puller ODL limited pro diesel truck Ram Tough Thanks to Dennis at Fair Valley Performace www.fvpdiesel.com Badger State Tractor Puller Association Member Ramtough \| Teespring

12-14-2014, 06:17 PM	#449
smoke_4_me Name: smoke_4_me Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 229	Any word on when rules will be posted? __________________ 2.6 puller "No Cents" Dodge

12-18-2014, 03:43 PM	#451
Smokem Name: Smokem Title: Turbler Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iowa Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,565	It's should be rather obvious that common sense questions have no place when discussing sled pulling rules. __________________ Infinite Performance

12-18-2014, 05:06 PM	#453
zstroken Name: zstroken Title: For $$$ your name here Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Michigan(by the lake) Member`s Gallery Posts: 23,151	I am skeptical about the open driveline for 2.6 and the cut tires for 3.0. I think PPL just tells folks what they want to hear... __________________ 2008 4x4 Megacab, 68RFE 97 Dodge gone.... 24V P-Pump Mafia member #1(retired) Thanks to Mumau Diesel, Goerend Transmission, Northeast Diesel Service!

12-11-2014, 07:29 PM	#445
TheHammer Name: TheHammer Title: broke Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2012 Location: juneau wi Member`s Gallery Posts: 738	by throwing patricks name up there I didn't list it, but my bad for associating the two.

12-18-2014, 08:57 PM	#454
fullrut1514 Name: fullrut1514 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 475	Would love to know the 2015 rules! Who can we bribe???

12-20-2014, 07:27 AM	#458
DISTURBED Name: DISTURBED Title: YEA WE RIDE THE SHORT BUS Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Winchester, Va Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,417	You can boycott PPL 2.6 if you want but they are big enough just to drop the whole class from the national level. They have plenty of filler classes they can put in to take your spot. __________________ Thanks, Jeremy 01 CTD Retired sled puller, dedicated "Twin Turbo" tow rig 96 CTD "TOO" Disturbed 3.0 - Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance 96 CTD "The Sickness" 2.6/2.8- Built by Disturbed Diesel Performance

12-20-2014, 07:32 AM	#459
gearhart73 Name: gearhart73 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Kingston, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 779	I don't see what all the complaining on this thread is trying to do. I keep hearing all this stuff about the PPL not listening to the pullers but there weren't very many trucks that made the commitment to run PPL schedule the last couple of years. Several of those top puller aren't having problems with their drivelines and didn't want the change. 20+ hooks isn't out of the question for 2.6 trucks. So PPL did listen to the people the made the commitment to run with them and did what they thought the majority of those pullers wanted. Maybe if you sent some more time of your chassis and gear setups you could make them live longer. Open rearend is not going to be a fix all for your 2.6 problems. Now that everyone is going to try the mt tires and start breaking other parts and then you will all want open driveline. I witnessed more t-case failures this year than I did rear ends with people trying different things. Open driveline 2.6 would be ridiculous since the driveline is the most expensive and timely part about building a 3.0 truck that everyone complains about. If you don't run PPL you don't have any reason to complain. If your local organization runs PPL runs then adapt them however you guys see fit and don't try to change everyone else's rules. This whole boycott thing is kind of laughable to me since besides the 2 headlight events, TS and Scheid's, there are 10-15 trucks that consistently show up. The committed trucks are going to show up anyway so I really don't think it matters. 10-15 trucks is still a good show and 30+ is too many for a class for a promoters stand point. __________________ Justin SSD4x4 Cream of the Crop