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7.3 and 6.9 IDI Pre-Powerstroke Ford Diesel Discussion |
02-02-2013, 01:00 PM
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Name: plowboy1138
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has anybody ran an 8cyl a or p pump on an idi......i seems like it could be done with a modified or custom intake and flow alot more fuel than a db2 or db4 pump
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02-02-2013, 01:11 PM
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Name: TMONEYDIESEL
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Yes
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02-03-2013, 05:09 AM
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Name: Tormentor
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IDI injectors are not a restriction. DI injectors are upgraded because they have orifice holes in the tip that limit flow capability, IDI injectors just lift the nozzle further.
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02-03-2013, 01:53 PM
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Name: RacinNdrummin
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IDI injectors can still be limited by the lift, and that is right at about .030"... .030" still doesnt get the pintle out of the orifice, so there is a little restriction there... However, it is moot, because even at 180cc's its not a restriction. I plan on doing a dyno test here soon, I am going to test a set of stock stroke injectors, injectors with the pintles removed, and a set of stroked injectors. I dont think there is going to be a any gains with the modded sticks...
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02-03-2013, 04:40 PM
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Name: Headcase98002
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Originally Posted by RacinNdrummin
IDI injectors can still be limited by the lift, and that is right at about .030"... .030" still doesnt get the pintle out of the orifice, so there is a little restriction there... However, it is moot, because even at 180cc's its not a restriction. I plan on doing a dyno test here soon, I am going to test a set of stock stroke injectors, injectors with the pintles removed, and a set of stroked injectors. I dont think there is going to be a any gains with the modded sticks...
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I am watching this, you will be called upon this summer to help with my build.
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02-03-2013, 07:08 PM
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Name: littleboy
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Interesting, we have a set of marine injectors in a modified 6.5 that we took apart and they show signs of the pintle hitting the plate hard.....there is actually wear marks there.
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02-04-2013, 01:07 PM
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ok so any one attempting to do this lol dont it has resulted in complete HEAD failure
fired it up for the first time saturday and pop it ran for a total of 3 mins im gonna say 12 psi each was tooo much for the old gurl idk but i am going this week to purchace a new project truck while i wait on my motor to come back from the engine builders
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02-04-2013, 07:38 PM
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Interesting, we have a set of marine injectors in a modified 6.5 that we took apart and they show signs of the pintle hitting the plate hard.....there is actually wear marks there.
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Pop pressure too high for low quality metal.
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02-04-2013, 08:12 PM
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Pop pressure too high for low quality metal.
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Could be. But also shows that the pintle is being opened to it's max. Also there is a bit a difference from 6.5 to 7.3 injectors ....
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05-01-2013, 09:54 AM
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Name: hesutton
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Originally Posted by RacinNdrummin
Why run a moose pump when you can get better pumps that flow twice as much fuel...
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You got parts to make these pumps?
Heath
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05-01-2013, 11:01 PM
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Name: 91dirtydiesel
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Originally Posted by hesutton
You got parts to make these pumps?
Heath
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Strong bump noob
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05-02-2013, 08:28 AM
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Name: RacinNdrummin
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You got parts to make these pumps?
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You have no clue what parts I do and do not have at my disposal, not to mention the parts I am working on for the future, I will go out on a limb (and a very short one at that) And point out that you pretty much don't have a clue anyway...
About time you manned up and showed up on a forum that I can set your BS straight on.
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05-02-2013, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Coal_cowboy
ok so any one attempting to do this lol dont it has resulted in complete HEAD failure
fired it up for the first time saturday and pop it ran for a total of 3 mins im gonna say 12 psi each was tooo much for the old gurl idk but i am going this week to purchace a new project truck while i wait on my motor to come back from the engine builders
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head failure, or gasket failure? Also, that isn't much boost.... we have several people running more than that.
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05-02-2013, 09:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hesutton
You got parts to make these pumps?
Heath
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Who are you again?
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05-02-2013, 09:27 AM
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Name: 91dirtydiesel
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Who are you again?
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You know who he is. Stage 5 moose nut swinger
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05-02-2013, 09:49 AM
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You know who he is. Stage 5 moose nut swinger
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He's a moose knuckle?
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05-02-2013, 10:01 AM
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He's a moose knuckle?
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Ironic, seeing that he deals with camel toe all day.
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05-02-2013, 10:07 AM
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Ironic, seeing that he deals with camel toe all day.
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05-02-2013, 10:53 AM
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Name: hesutton
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05-02-2013, 10:59 AM
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Name: hesutton
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Heath
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