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02-18-2009, 08:32 AM
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Name: 2wpuller
Title: letting the smoke fly
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Originally Posted by Diesel Monster
Lookin good Dale,nice job!
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Thanks we are trying.
O by the way Exgasser is my brother (Daryl) and part owner of this prodject along with my soninlaw (Dan) and the rest of the family.
Dale
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02-18-2009, 09:06 PM
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#82
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Name: 2wd_sled_puller
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Thanks we are trying.
O by the way Exgasser is my brother (Daryl) and part owner of this prodject along with my soninlaw (Dan) and the rest of the family.
Dale
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Get to work dale or your
Still looking sweet. I need to get some pics of mine i reckon
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02-18-2009, 09:12 PM
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#83
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Name: SPEAKSUP
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So whats the Advantage with the 3 Speed Box compared to the 1 Speeds the 4X4 run?
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02-18-2009, 09:13 PM
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#84
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Name: 2wpuller
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I'll talk to Dan and find out how much the windsheild decal is.
What know pic's yet
Dale
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02-18-2009, 09:15 PM
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#85
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Name: 2wpuller
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Originally Posted by SPEAKSUP
So whats the Advantage with the 3 Speed Box compared to the 1 Speeds the 4X4 run?
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Well 3gears verses 1gear Just kidding I have the gear ratio set at 550 rpm between gears.and we can change gears enytime up untill we take off with the sled.
Dale
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02-18-2009, 09:21 PM
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#86
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Name: SPEAKSUP
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Sounds like them 4X4 Pro Mod's need to go to the 3 Speed box.
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02-18-2009, 09:36 PM
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#87
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Name: 2wpuller
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Just got to convince them that although they can change gears in the drop boxes just not that fast.
Dale
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02-19-2009, 05:31 AM
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#88
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Name: Diesel Monster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SPEAKSUP
Sounds like them 4X4 Pro Mod's need to go to the 3 Speed box.
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The 3 speed robs a touch more power than a drop box-but put the 3 spd. and a dropbox together and you rob twice the power.We have ran 3 spd.s in alky trucks and the power loss was not worth it by no means.Remember Dale has no dropbox so his truck is at no more dis advantage than anyone else's.
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02-19-2009, 11:09 AM
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#89
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Name: 2wpuller
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel Monster
The 3 speed robs a touch more power than a drop box-but put the 3 spd. and a dropbox together and you rob twice the power.We have ran 3 spd.s in alky trucks and the power loss was not worth it by no means.Remember Dale has no dropbox so his truck is at no more dis advantage than anyone else's.
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True it might rob alittle more power because of the twin counter shaft. but I think that I gain from not having to turn a front drive shaft and front dif,and front tires. Soo I beleave I will gain Hp verses a 4x4 may be we can compete with less HP.
Dale
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02-19-2009, 11:45 AM
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#90
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Name: Fireman450
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2wpuller
True it might rob alittle more power because of the twin counter shaft. but I think that I gain from not having to turn a front drive shaft and front dif,and front tires. Soo I beleave I will gain Hp verses a 4x4 may be we can compete with less HP.
Dale
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Hey as long as you can get every little pony to the ground thats what matters. Looking good dale.
Oh looks like you surpassed the 1000 post mark....
Fireman450
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02-19-2009, 12:19 PM
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#91
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Name: 2wpuller
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Didn't even notice that.the hardest thing we are working on now is the mid drive shaft sheild it has to be totolly inclosed allum tube is daaaaaamm $$$$$$ give me a call on the house phone would you.
Dale
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02-20-2009, 09:39 AM
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#92
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Name: SmokeShow
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think I've heard of people using section of an alum. light pole as driveshaft encasement/shields...
back to the 1-spd vs. 3-spd thing... just how much more power does the 3-spd rob? 5% more than 1-spd? 10%?
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02-20-2009, 10:21 AM
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#93
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Name: LOGANSTANFORTH
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one of my teachers in college used to build 2wd pulling trucks for a living (Bean Bandit trucks and the Irish Challenger)........
i always said there would be a 2wd mod truck......too bad they "cant" compete against a 4x4.....HAHAHAHA
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02-20-2009, 10:33 AM
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Name: kino_fab
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I'm gonna laugh my ass off too when Dale makes you eat those words lol.
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02-20-2009, 11:04 AM
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#95
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Name: 2wpuller
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I don't think that on the Diesels you would notice the lost hp because of so much more tq..
I hope we can make some beleavers out of some people soon to bring them over to the Darkside Just like when the diesels started pulling the gassers said they couldn't conplete them(gassers) How do they like it now HeHe.
Dale
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02-20-2009, 12:15 PM
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#96
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Name: 2wd_sled_puller
Title: K&P Diesel House
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2wpuller
I don't think that on the Diesels you would notice the lost hp because of so much more tq..
I hope we can make some beleavers out of some people soon to bring them over to the Darkside Just like when the diesels started pulling the gassers said they couldn't conplete them(gassers) How do they like it now HeHe.
Dale
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02-20-2009, 07:39 PM
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#97
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Name: Moremph
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Got another 2wd being built in ky,
2wd super stock, Open motor (cubic inch limit) will allow for jd, ih motors etc to be used, This particular guy has a 7.8l Brazillion ford with 2 or 3 charges.
Steel body, tube frame, DOT aprroved tire for now(they may go cepeks) with a 30" hitch
Here it is so far
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02-20-2009, 11:04 PM
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#98
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Name: Fireman450
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Hopefully we can put on a good 2wd show at TS this year....
Im glad to see some more intrest.
Now lets see how big this snowball can really get....
Fireman450
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02-21-2009, 05:12 AM
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#99
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Name: Diesel Monster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2wpuller
True it might rob alittle more power because of the twin counter shaft. but I think that I gain from not having to turn a front drive shaft and front dif,and front tires. Soo I beleave I will gain Hp verses a 4x4 may be we can compete with less HP.
Dale
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Oh you most definatly are equal or lesser power loss than a 4x4.With no transfer,front shaft,front axel, you most likely are alot less.But I was trying to answer the question of why the 4x4 guys dont run a 3 spd.When you combine all that stuff together is when you will feel it.
For those guys disbeleiving I have hooked against 2wd blower trucks and they can be pretty bad a$$.I think you stand a good chance of being competitive.The big thing in my eyes is you are doing it---most people do not have the balls to even try something new.Dale does your rear have a banter style/needled center section?
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02-21-2009, 02:20 PM
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Name: 2wpuller
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Quote:
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Oh you most definatly are equal or lesser power loss than a 4x4.With no transfer,front shaft,front axel, you most likely are alot less.But I was trying to answer the question of why the 4x4 guys dont run a 3 spd.When you combine all that stuff together is when you will feel it.
For those guys disbeleiving I have hooked against 2wd blower trucks and they can be pretty bad a$$.I think you stand a good chance of being competitive.The big thing in my eyes is you are doing it---most people do not have the balls to even try something new.Dale does your rear have a banter style/needled center section?
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I under stood what you was saying about the 4x4.
I realy don't know any thing about this rear end ecept what the gear ratio is5.16 and that it is a SQHR and that it came out of a SMTW NTPA truck and that it is damm heavey I was told it is indestrucktable
And I hope the snow ball keeps getting bigger..
I hope that Brazilian motor works out for him I have driven a lot of truck with them in from stock to to being turned up they are a good motor fairly stock any more than that they start haveing alot of deferant things go wrong What is his weight going to be.
Dale
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