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Old 09-18-2012, 01:18 PM   #41
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from this kit click me


10,000lb over the axle weight Towing Kit. 100% Bolton with 10" of travel, comes with Plug and Play completely Prewired and plumbedovfer the


I just can't figure out if i want air ride or beef up my trany first
yea I hear ya this is the kit i was looking at
firestone,airlift,ridetech,towing kits
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Are the trailer torque arms called anything else. I searched a bit online and can't seem to find much.
 
Old 09-19-2012, 11:01 AM   #43
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Are the trailer torque arms called anything else. I searched a bit online and can't seem to find much.
not that i know of i found like 1 on ebay
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:45 PM   #44
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How Bad was the price on that kit? and was it a front and rear? or just rear
It was a rear kit that a customer baught used. He told me their rear kit is like $3200. I'm sure a guy can build a set up like it way cheaper, just don't keep track of your time. I plan on putting air ride and an eaton rear axle in my 95 this winter. Here are pics of their kit. It did utilize ping tanks too, and this truck rode like a dream. I was really surprised.

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Old 09-19-2012, 01:46 PM   #45
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Here's something I've been wondering since I installed this kit. Are the ping tanks necessary? Semi's don't run them and seem to be fine. Am I missing something there?
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:36 PM   #46
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It was a rear kit that a customer baught used. He told me their rear kit is like $3200. I'm sure a guy can build a set up like it way cheaper, just don't keep track of your time. I plan on putting air ride and an eaton rear axle in my 95 this winter. Here are pics of their kit. It did utilize ping tanks too, and this truck rode like a dream. I was really surprised.
Dang $3200 thats a good little chunk.does the guy tow with it? and if so do you have a Airbag part #?
Also what did he do for a air compressor?
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:47 PM   #47
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Here's something I've been wondering since I installed this kit. Are the ping tanks necessary? Semi's don't run them and seem to be fine. Am I missing something there?
I am still trying to figure out what they are for also
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I am still trying to figure out what they are for also
Different air bags have different natural frequencies. Generally, the taller the bag the softer it is. Ping tanks try to increase the bag volume, making them softer. Some of the air suspensions in these pictures use darn short bags, which generally make for a harsh ride. Air bags can be just as harsh or even worse than leaf springs if they are used improperly.

"Semis" don't have them because generally they were designed to use tall air bags.

Most of this is explained in the threads I've done over on that other website.
 
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Dang $3200 thats a good little chunk.does the guy tow with it? and if so do you have a Airbag part #?
Also what did he do for a air compressor?
This guy purchased the whole rear kit with air tanks and compressor for $1500. I didn't get air bag part numbers, but I can. I know where the truck lives. The air comp was a VIAIR, I don't remember what CFM though. This one did have tall bags. I can see short bags making hard ride. not very much volume in them so they'd be rock hard like semi cab suspension bags.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:39 PM   #50
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Different air bags have different natural frequencies. Generally, the taller the bag the softer it is. Ping tanks try to increase the bag volume, making them softer. Some of the air suspensions in these pictures use darn short bags, which generally make for a harsh ride. Air bags can be just as harsh or even worse than leaf springs if they are used improperly.

"Semis" don't have them because generally they were designed to use tall air bags.

Most of this is explained in the threads I've done over on that other website.
ok so they are generally like a accumlator setup just making the volume greater
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This guy purchased the whole rear kit with air tanks and compressor for $1500. I didn't get air bag part numbers, but I can. I know where the truck lives. The air comp was a VIAIR, I don't remember what CFM though. This one did have tall bags. I can see short bags making hard ride. not very much volume in them so they'd be rock hard like semi cab suspension bags.
Thats not bad at all for a price.
My plans are to run Viair.I already have one of their compressors on my farm truck and having avalible air at all times it nice.Since I only have one fuel tank I can utlize the other fuel door for air chuck hook up. My ? is Does the guy tow?if so alot or what equipment wise?If yes I would appreciate bag part#s.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:33 AM   #51
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Ive seen motocross bikes with something similar.. little air tanks hanging off the top of the forks. Only thing Id worry about is the restriction of the line between the bag and the tank. The size of the line might function like the pneumatic equivalent of a damping adjustment.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:20 PM   #52
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The size of the line might function like the pneumatic equivalent of a damping adjustment.
Nope, it won't.

It will make them soft when you put a load on and harsh going over small bumps. The opposite of what you want.
 
Old 10-05-2012, 08:15 PM   #53
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This is the one that the compony make that my brother works at.I was going to call and see if they would make them in eny lengh you want but I droped the ball and forgot.It is hell; to get old and forgetful.
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:11 PM   #54
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well I am thinking about seriouly going with balistic joints
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We ran a reverse cantilever 4 link on an s10. Excellent for height adjustment but changed the braking dynamic of the vehicle to the point it was problematic. The rearward facing links affectively lift the rear of chassis during braking lengthening braking distances. Im sure there are other factors involved but that is what i remember. Just if anyone was considering.

I have wanted to see a 3 link setup similar to that red underaxle setup. This seems ideal as a retrofit.

Me2 have you got any online references i can read through about the frequency rates you mentioned?
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I also think the ping tank could be tuned with dual supplies, check valves and fixed orifices if one took their time to tune.

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Are the trailer torque arms called anything else. I searched a bit online and can't seem to find much.
Catalog Page 207

Hutchens radius arms. They are at the top of http://www.newlifeparts.com/newlife/...l/i/page3.htmlthis page.
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