Modified SXE cover vs. 3rd gen cover for compounds - Competition Diesel.Com

xDiesel03 · 06-21-2017, 06:00 PM

Looking for some dimensional information and recommendations. I went with a S366sxe for a new secondary. What I'm trying to confirm/deny is whether or not the SXE cover with an elbow will meet up with my piping that's setup for a 3rd gen cover?

Or, should I just run the already vbanded 3rd gen cover from my old secondary?

SPEEDSHIFT · 06-22-2017, 07:39 AM

The factory SX-E covers will flow more than the standard non SX-E covers will. I would make the SX-E cover work to get the full flow potential.

Broaner · 06-22-2017, 02:25 PM

I have a side by side set as well and was unable to use the standard cast elbow. I had to get a super tight radius elbow from Rob Winkworth. Then it worked.

From your sig pic it looks like you might have room to use the standard elbow.

xDiesel03 · 06-22-2017, 07:58 PM

Thanks guys! I decided to have it modified as recommended. AGP appears to do a good job of getting it really close to factory dimensions and only charges $75 to include the elbow.

-NEW- Borg Warner / AGP S300 SXE Non-Wastegated 3rd Gen Cummins - AGP Turbochargers, Inc. Store

Broaner · 06-23-2017, 11:43 AM

Oh thats great to know. About the only downside to that is you would need to have that alteration done should you decide to switch to a 69 or 64.5. And while we're on that topic. I would recommend the 69 over the 66. The exducer on both the 66 and 69 is the same so the difference in response is extremely minimal but the flow potential is so much higher. I would recommend the 64.5 or 69. Not the 66.

But you could also just do the 66 supercore and use the old cover. That would be the simplest route and you won't see much seat of the pants from the switch to the SXE cover.

*Smokem* · 06-23-2017, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Broaner

The exducer on both the 66 and 69 is the same so the difference in response is extremely minimal but the flow potential is so much higher.

At the cost of a higher pressure ratio capability, which is more important than the small gain in flow regarding use in a diesel application.

EnduringAtlas · 06-23-2017, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xDiesel03

Thanks guys! I decided to have it modified as recommended. AGP appears to do a good job of getting it really close to factory dimensions and only charges $75 to include the elbow.

-NEW- Borg Warner / AGP S300 SXE Non-Wastegated 3rd Gen Cummins - AGP Turbochargers, Inc. Store

Nice find and thanks for sharing it, something for me to keep in mind for later down the road.

Broaner · 06-24-2017, 12:27 PM

I hear that as a single. Good point. I guess this is where I'm at. Who cares about max pressure ratio on the secondary? I mean godamn thats a whole helluva lot of power when you are at 4:1+ on the secondary.

IDK if its head flow and bigger injectors or what but my 69 spools well before the 82.

xDiesel03 · 09-09-2017, 04:48 PM

I wasn't able to get anyone to modify the SXE cover to match the old cover v bands and dimensions so I just put the old cover back on and switch from a 0.91 to a 1.0 on the exhaust side.

06-21-2017, 06:00 PM	#1
xDiesel03 Name: xDiesel03 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2013 Member`s Gallery Posts: 225	Modified SXE cover vs. 3rd gen cover for compounds Looking for some dimensional information and recommendations. I went with a S366sxe for a new secondary. What I'm trying to confirm/deny is whether or not the SXE cover with an elbow will meet up with my piping that's setup for a 3rd gen cover? Or, should I just run the already vbanded 3rd gen cover from my old secondary? __________________ 2003 2500 QCSB 4x4 3.73 - Firepunk HPT Tuned, BBI Stage 2's, DAP 63/68/12, Hamilton [624/1050 and 680/1206 with Water/Meth] 2012 2500 CCSB 4x4 3.73 Firepunk EFI and Comp3, D&J Built 6.7L, S&S 200%, ATS Dual CP3 w/ Exergy 12mm, S366/S483 Compounds [1086/2289]

06-22-2017, 07:39 AM	#2
SPEEDSHIFT Name: SPEEDSHIFT Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,978	The factory SX-E covers will flow more than the standard non SX-E covers will. I would make the SX-E cover work to get the full flow potential. __________________ @bodie_armstrong 2003 2500 4x4 auto FOR SALE 2005 2500 4x4 auto Drag Truck 2013 3500 4x4 Aisin Dually Tow Rig Tenacity Tuning, Longs Machine Shop, BD Diesel Performance

06-22-2017, 02:25 PM	#3
Broaner Name: Broaner Title: Been There n Broke That Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Madison, WI Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	I have a side by side set as well and was unable to use the standard cast elbow. I had to get a super tight radius elbow from Rob Winkworth. Then it worked. From your sig pic it looks like you might have room to use the standard elbow. __________________ 05.5 QCSB Shotpeened NV5600 - 994hp/1650tq, 6.7, Wagler Rods, QSB Pistons, 625's, Oversized Valves, ZZFab, P&P, 150%, Dual CP3, 69/73/1.0 & 82/96/1.32 Street Triple, 35's, Trutrac, Carli, MM3 from Gordon, 1100hp

06-22-2017, 07:58 PM	#4
xDiesel03 Name: xDiesel03 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2013 Member`s Gallery Posts: 225	Thanks guys! I decided to have it modified as recommended. AGP appears to do a good job of getting it really close to factory dimensions and only charges $75 to include the elbow. -NEW- Borg Warner / AGP S300 SXE Non-Wastegated 3rd Gen Cummins - AGP Turbochargers, Inc. Store __________________ 2003 2500 QCSB 4x4 3.73 - Firepunk HPT Tuned, BBI Stage 2's, DAP 63/68/12, Hamilton [624/1050 and 680/1206 with Water/Meth] 2012 2500 CCSB 4x4 3.73 Firepunk EFI and Comp3, D&J Built 6.7L, S&S 200%, ATS Dual CP3 w/ Exergy 12mm, S366/S483 Compounds [1086/2289]

06-23-2017, 11:43 AM	#5
Broaner Name: Broaner Title: Been There n Broke That Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Madison, WI Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	Oh thats great to know. About the only downside to that is you would need to have that alteration done should you decide to switch to a 69 or 64.5. And while we're on that topic. I would recommend the 69 over the 66. The exducer on both the 66 and 69 is the same so the difference in response is extremely minimal but the flow potential is so much higher. I would recommend the 64.5 or 69. Not the 66. But you could also just do the 66 supercore and use the old cover. That would be the simplest route and you won't see much seat of the pants from the switch to the SXE cover. __________________ 05.5 QCSB Shotpeened NV5600 - 994hp/1650tq, 6.7, Wagler Rods, QSB Pistons, 625's, Oversized Valves, ZZFab, P&P, 150%, Dual CP3, 69/73/1.0 & 82/96/1.32 Street Triple, 35's, Trutrac, Carli, MM3 from Gordon, 1100hp Last edited by Broaner; 06-23-2017 at 11:49 AM.

06-24-2017, 12:27 PM	#8
Broaner Name: Broaner Title: Been There n Broke That Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Madison, WI Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	I hear that as a single. Good point. I guess this is where I'm at. Who cares about max pressure ratio on the secondary? I mean godamn thats a whole helluva lot of power when you are at 4:1+ on the secondary. IDK if its head flow and bigger injectors or what but my 69 spools well before the 82. __________________ 05.5 QCSB Shotpeened NV5600 - 994hp/1650tq, 6.7, Wagler Rods, QSB Pistons, 625's, Oversized Valves, ZZFab, P&P, 150%, Dual CP3, 69/73/1.0 & 82/96/1.32 Street Triple, 35's, Trutrac, Carli, MM3 from Gordon, 1100hp Last edited by Broaner; 06-24-2017 at 12:36 PM.

09-09-2017, 04:48 PM	#9
xDiesel03 Name: xDiesel03 Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2013 Member`s Gallery Posts: 225	I wasn't able to get anyone to modify the SXE cover to match the old cover v bands and dimensions so I just put the old cover back on and switch from a 0.91 to a 1.0 on the exhaust side. __________________ 2003 2500 QCSB 4x4 3.73 - Firepunk HPT Tuned, BBI Stage 2's, DAP 63/68/12, Hamilton [624/1050 and 680/1206 with Water/Meth] 2012 2500 CCSB 4x4 3.73 Firepunk EFI and Comp3, D&J Built 6.7L, S&S 200%, ATS Dual CP3 w/ Exergy 12mm, S366/S483 Compounds [1086/2289]