Advertisement |
|
|
|
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above.
You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.
To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
|
Drag Racing Where ALL Racers are Welcome- From ET Bracket, all the way to ProStreet and Top Diesel! |
03-17-2020, 09:11 AM
|
#1
|
Name: Timbeaux
Title: Administrator and Head Thread Derailer
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Heart of Dixie
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 17,238
|
Who is making big power or hauling ass with emissions?
Saw a post on instagram about Dillehay's Superduty going well over six bills- emissions intact.
Who else is making decent power with all of the mandated emissions stuff?
__________________
COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM BRINGING THE BEST TOGETHER
F250(DD) ANOTHER TRUCK (PROGRAM) NO LIMIT FAB, DIESEL SOUTH, DC CUSTOMS
Quote:
"I just love everything about racing. I wanna race every single day. Its nothing for me to be cutting grass and the neighbor hoss the gas on his mower, and there we are, lined up in the the middle of the street." - Stevie KillinTime Jackson
|
"A gainst stupidity, the gods themselves fight unvictorious."
中
|
|
|
03-17-2020, 10:30 AM
|
#2
|
Name: Big Blue24
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cedar City, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 6,310
|
I saw Clint, owner of ATS newer Ford roll mid 600 HP last week on their Mustang dyno, emission in-tact with an add-a-turbo compound setup and I was told is in the process of getting CARB EO numbers on the kit.
I was also told the days of 4k to 6k $ compound turbo kits are over and these new "tested" and "approved" systems are going to run 8k to 10k for an add-a-turbo compound system with tuning, etc.
__________________
95' 2wd Junker Drag Truck
1502 HP Fuel-Only 12mm P7100 Pump
SXE 472 over GTX55 116mm
OEM 12v Block
|
|
|
03-17-2020, 01:14 PM
|
#3
|
Name: CorneliusRox
Title: Seasoned Rookie
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Detroit, MI
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,154
|
Looks like the Firepunk guys are doing mid 500's with the Aisan and low 500's with the 68FRE on the roller cam 6.7's with emissions equipment installed.
__________________
Corey - BSME '21 Tesla Model 3 Perf
'22 DMax AT4 2500
|
|
|
03-17-2020, 02:22 PM
|
#4
|
Name: Timbeaux
Title: Administrator and Head Thread Derailer
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Heart of Dixie
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 17,238
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Blue24
I was also told the days of 4k to 6k $ compound turbo kits are over and these new "tested" and "approved" systems are going to run 8k to 10k for an add-a-turbo compound system with tuning, etc.
|
Well, maybe until several companies get in the game. Prices on that stuff will come down as things become normal.
Something to ponder- if 600 is somewhat easily achievable with emissions, imagine where we wil be in a few years.
It wasnt too long ago that 500 was a serious d!ck-swinger truck, and 850 at 5500 pounds was Prostreet competitive.
__________________
COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM BRINGING THE BEST TOGETHER
F250(DD) ANOTHER TRUCK (PROGRAM) NO LIMIT FAB, DIESEL SOUTH, DC CUSTOMS
Quote:
"I just love everything about racing. I wanna race every single day. Its nothing for me to be cutting grass and the neighbor hoss the gas on his mower, and there we are, lined up in the the middle of the street." - Stevie KillinTime Jackson
|
"A gainst stupidity, the gods themselves fight unvictorious."
中
|
|
|
03-17-2020, 07:49 PM
|
#5
|
Name: takedown95
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,841
|
Isn't the LP5 Duramax doing 500+ with just some tuning? I thought that was the new rage but I stopped messing with street trucks in 2011.
|
|
|
03-17-2020, 08:23 PM
|
#6
|
Name: dummins
Title: Another moron
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Beaver Lake
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 262
|
Toying with tuning my 17 super duty, I have been hearing that high fives are possible with tune only. Sure seems like it’d be a blast to drive.
|
|
|
03-19-2020, 10:37 AM
|
#7
|
Name: Timbeaux
Title: Administrator and Head Thread Derailer
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Heart of Dixie
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 17,238
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dummins
Toying with tuning my 17 super duty, I have been hearing that high fives are possible with tune only. Sure seems like it’d be a blast to drive.
|
Dang skippy it would be..... talk about a sleeper
__________________
COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM BRINGING THE BEST TOGETHER
F250(DD) ANOTHER TRUCK (PROGRAM) NO LIMIT FAB, DIESEL SOUTH, DC CUSTOMS
Quote:
"I just love everything about racing. I wanna race every single day. Its nothing for me to be cutting grass and the neighbor hoss the gas on his mower, and there we are, lined up in the the middle of the street." - Stevie KillinTime Jackson
|
"A gainst stupidity, the gods themselves fight unvictorious."
中
|
|
|
03-19-2020, 11:08 AM
|
#8
|
Name: Snedge
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Western Pa.
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 18,832
|
On the heavy duty side, ISX -X15, we have guys up over 700 with the operational emission control in place. They run a little hotter on the exhaust side, but from what we've seen, they don't seem to regen as much as stock, and in applications with DEF, they burn less.
Amazing what a little pulse width will do.
|
|
|
03-19-2020, 06:53 PM
|
#9
|
Name: Crawler
Title: Press the BIG RED button.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NE Texas
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 837
|
We've been breaking 600 with all emissions in place on the L5P. A couple of the players are claiming they can get to 700. Currently the readily available daily driver tunes are doing around 550. Though the regen cycles have been fairly short.
|
|
|
03-19-2020, 07:40 PM
|
#10
|
Name: fatty
Title: VE
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: SW Idaho
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 957
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dummins
Toying with tuning my 17 super duty, I have been hearing that high fives are possible with tune only. Sure seems like it’d be a blast to drive.
|
I've got a 2019 f350 with 21k miles that I really want to tune. I've had the EZLynk files since last summer. Got the exhaust and EGR delete a couple months ago. It sure would be nice to get better than 9 MPG towing my work trailer.
Just too chicken to do it and lose that warranty. It is a Ford after all, I'm probably going to need it.
__________________
91.5 W250
2019 F350
|
|
|
03-19-2020, 08:07 PM
|
#11
|
Name: BluegrassDiesel
Title: UK2K!
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: KENTUCKY
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,136
|
Anyone have any dyno sheets on a 550+ emissions intact truck? Interested to see the power curve. I’m assuming they’re pretty weak down low but I could be wrong
__________________
Josh Land
Bluegrass Diesel Performance
Lancaster, Ky
SHOP ONLINE @ http://WWW.SHOPBLUEGRASS.COM
97 DodgePPL Limited Pro Stock "The Crippler"
09 3500 GMC CCDually
05 Silverado SS
|
|
|
03-19-2020, 10:27 PM
|
#12
|
Name: J-Pipes
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ohio
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,560
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluegrassDiesel
Anyone have any dyno sheets on a 550+ emissions intact truck? Interested to see the power curve. I’m assuming they’re pretty weak down low but I could be wrong
|
Did firepunk show the graph in their videos?
Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
__________________
2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.
|
|
|
03-20-2020, 08:47 AM
|
#13
|
Name: JWhite
Title: Trained monkey
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: F Burg Ohio
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,817
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluegrassDiesel
Anyone have any dyno sheets on a 550+ emissions intact truck? Interested to see the power curve. I’m assuming they’re pretty weak down low but I could be wrong
|
If they're doing 900-1000 lb-ft stock trim I doubt they'll be "weak". But I'd imagine guys aren't fueling them extremely hard down low to keep the trans alive
__________________
GMC with a LiLLY
|
|
|
03-20-2020, 08:49 AM
|
#14
|
Name: Timbeaux
Title: Administrator and Head Thread Derailer
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Heart of Dixie
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 17,238
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crawler
We've been breaking 600 with all emissions in place on the L5P. A couple of the players are claiming they can get to 700. Currently the readily available daily driver tunes are doing around 550. Though the regen cycles have been fairly short.
|
How does the transmission like it?
__________________
COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM BRINGING THE BEST TOGETHER
F250(DD) ANOTHER TRUCK (PROGRAM) NO LIMIT FAB, DIESEL SOUTH, DC CUSTOMS
Quote:
"I just love everything about racing. I wanna race every single day. Its nothing for me to be cutting grass and the neighbor hoss the gas on his mower, and there we are, lined up in the the middle of the street." - Stevie KillinTime Jackson
|
"A gainst stupidity, the gods themselves fight unvictorious."
中
|
|
|
03-20-2020, 10:15 AM
|
#15
|
Name: CorneliusRox
Title: Seasoned Rookie
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Detroit, MI
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,154
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crawler
We've been breaking 600 with all emissions in place on the L5P. A couple of the players are claiming they can get to 700. Currently the readily available daily driver tunes are doing around 550. Though the regen cycles have been fairly short.
|
>600hp at the wheels? And that's stock fueling and turbo with emissions equipment operational?
I might start looking at new trucks...
__________________
Corey - BSME '21 Tesla Model 3 Perf
'22 DMax AT4 2500
|
|
|
03-20-2020, 12:03 PM
|
#16
|
Name: JWhite
Title: Trained monkey
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: F Burg Ohio
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,817
|
You might make 600 a couple times on an L5P (fuel system and turbo will make it), but the 17-19 Allison didn't receive any upgrades. A pressure fooler in the trans might buy you some time, but the c3 pack (which has always been problematic) still has 4 frictions
__________________
GMC with a LiLLY
Last edited by JWhite; 03-20-2020 at 12:13 PM.
|
|
|
03-21-2020, 11:42 AM
|
#17
|
Name: Timbeaux
Title: Administrator and Head Thread Derailer
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Heart of Dixie
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 17,238
|
So, when we are done staying away from each other, I think it is time for a DPF swinging contest
__________________
COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM BRINGING THE BEST TOGETHER
F250(DD) ANOTHER TRUCK (PROGRAM) NO LIMIT FAB, DIESEL SOUTH, DC CUSTOMS
Quote:
"I just love everything about racing. I wanna race every single day. Its nothing for me to be cutting grass and the neighbor hoss the gas on his mower, and there we are, lined up in the the middle of the street." - Stevie KillinTime Jackson
|
"A gainst stupidity, the gods themselves fight unvictorious."
中
|
|
|
03-21-2020, 11:01 PM
|
#18
|
Name: displacedtexan
Title: $500 PREMIUM MEMBER
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mobilehoma
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 13,876
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timbeaux
Well, maybe until several companies get in the game. Prices on that stuff will come down as things become normal.
Something to ponder- if 600 is somewhat easily achievable with emissions, imagine where we wil be in a few years.
It wasnt too long ago that 500 was a serious d!ck-swinger truck, and 850 at 5500 pounds was Prostreet competitive.
|
All three things too many people forget.
__________________
I talk loud.
|
|
|
03-22-2020, 07:52 PM
|
#19
|
Name: Crawler
Title: Press the BIG RED button.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NE Texas
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 837
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timbeaux
How does the transmission like it?
|
With good transmission tuning, some live quite a while and some don't. Mostly comes down to how bad they abuse it. I tell all guys that they are on borrowed time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorneliusRox
>600hp at the wheels? And that's stock fueling and turbo with emissions equipment operational?
I might start looking at new trucks...
|
Right now the publicly available files are doing about 550 at the wheels. Keep in mind the regen intervals tend to be a bit short if you have a heavy foot.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JWhite
You might make 600 a couple times on an L5P (fuel system and turbo will make it), but the 17-19 Allison didn't receive any upgrades. A pressure fooler in the trans might buy you some time, but the c3 pack (which has always been problematic) still has 4 frictions
|
I wouldn't disagree. I was just speaking to power numbers. Not the drivetrain and its long term capability.
|
|
|
03-22-2020, 07:55 PM
|
#20
|
Name: Crawler
Title: Press the BIG RED button.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NE Texas
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 837
|
To add to the post a little,
In response to Timbeaux, I was talking about the 6sp Allison.
Concerning the 10sp in the 2020 trucks, They so far have been taking the power better. We'll see what the long term results are. We also don't have transmission tuning available for the new TCM as of yet.
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:25 PM.
|