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01-08-2015, 07:42 AM
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Name: Runninlean
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Originally Posted by Chris Tobin
Shouldn't the helmet requirement be for SA rated Snell helmets not M rated Snell helmets?
The SA helmets are for automotive use and are fire resistant while the M helmets are for motorcycle use and are not fire resistant... The visor opening and fastener is also more tightly regulated in the SA rated helmets.
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Have to go back and check but believe the M rated is good to 9.99.
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01-08-2015, 08:54 AM
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#142
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Name: Chris Tobin
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Originally Posted by rocracing
Helmut specs came directly from SFI since we are an ASO of NHRA we have to follow their guidelines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Runninlean
Have to go back and check but believe the M rated is good to 9.99.
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10-4, thanks for the clarification.
Surprises me that M helmets are accepted at all with the NHRA...
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01-08-2015, 11:06 AM
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#143
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Name: joefarmer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRDA
Here is a draft of the proposed rules for the 10.90 class
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Looks great to me! Thank you for listening to our constant whining.
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01-08-2015, 12:18 PM
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#144
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Name: vsouth
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I'm with Big Blue on the 11.49 rule. I want to run the class, but there is no way I will be able to get a bar in before the season starts. I feel I can be competitive running 11.50 and to show support for the class until I can get the bar in the truck.
If I run to fast for my safety equipment then I can be DQ'd. Many classes have been won by trucks not running near the dial.
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01-08-2015, 01:21 PM
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#145
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Name: jlibert
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRDA
Here is a draft of the proposed rules for the 10.90 class
NHRDA 10.90 Index Class Abbreviation – TBA
• Heads-Up class with 10.90 Index
• 4/10ths Pro Tree
• Pro ladder by closest to the 10.90 index without going under
• Lane choice by closest to the 10.90 index without going under
• Auto Start on
• Must have a current NHRDA membership, competition number and class abbreviation on vehicle
• NHRDA and MBRP Diesel Drag Race Series decals must be displayed on both sides of the vehicle and be in plain view
• All Exhaust must exit up and away from vehicle
• Vehicle must be certified to run 11.49 seconds and faster
• NHRA and/or IHRA approved roll bar and SFI 45.1 roll cage padding required
• Fuel cells are permitted and do not have to be mounted in stock location ( Fuel cells must be SFI 28.1 or 28.2 certified)
• Battery(s) that are not forward of OEM Firewall, but must be mounted in an approved box.
• Master electrical cutoff required if battery is moved from non-OEM position. (Cutoff must be located at the rear of the vehicle and outside of the body)
• Auto Trans reverse lockout and neutral safety required on Auto Trans
• Working taillight required. Flashing ,blinking , or strobe lights prohibited
• Liquid Overflow required
• Steel valve stems in all tubeless tires required
• Drive line loop required
• SFI 1.1 or 1.2 Flywheel / Clutch required
• SFI 6.1, 6.2 or 6.3 Bellhousing or 9.1 Flywheel shield required
• SFI 3.2A/1 jacket required (Jackets must have NHRDA patch on left or right chest)
• SFI Spec 16.1 or 16.5 driver restraints required
• Helmet Certified to SNELL 2005 or 2010 standards, or certified to SFI Specs 31.1/2005, 41.1/2005, 31.1/2010 or 41.1/2010 required if running 13.99 or quicker
IF RUNNING 10.99 seconds or quicker
• SFI 4.1 Transmission Shield required
• SFI 18.1 Harmonic Balancer required
• Roll Cage and SFI 45.1 roll cage padding required with altered floor plans or non-OEM firewall (SFI 27.1 window net then required)
• Auto trans locking-type dipstick required
IF RUNNING 135 mph and faster
• Must have a current NHRA chassis certification for 9.99 or 135 mph and faster
• Must have a current NHRA license for 9.99 or 135 mph and faster
• Full Face Helmet (Must have helmet meeting Snell SA2005, K2005, M2005, SA2010, SAH2010, K2010, M2010 or SFI 31.1/2005, 41.1/2005, 31.1/2010 or 41.1/2010 specs) required
• SFI 3.2A/5 Jacket and Pants required
• SFI Neck Collar 3.3 required
• SFI Gloves 3.3/5 required
• SFI Boots or shoes 3.3/5 required
• SFI 29.1 Flexplate / 30.1 Flexplate shield (AT equipped cars) required
• SFI 45.1 Roll cage padding required
• SFI 27.1 Window Net required
• Master Electrical Shutoff required (must be located at rear of vehicle and outside the body)
• Parachute required running 150 mph and faster
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There are a couple rules here that are more stringent than NHRA.
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01-08-2015, 03:06 PM
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#146
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Name: Runninlean
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vsouth
I'm with Big Blue on the 11.49 rule. I want to run the class, but there is no way I will be able to get a bar in before the season starts. I feel I can be competitive running 11.50 and to show support for the class until I can get the bar in the truck.
If I run to fast for my safety equipment then I can be DQ'd. Many classes have been won by trucks not running near the dial.
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I am in the same boat, Still working on buttoning up other things on the truck and not sure I can get a roll bar done before April.
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01-08-2015, 05:24 PM
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#147
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Name: Big Blue24
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I have a roll cage and will have no issues complying with the 11.49 certified rules, I just want there to be more than 3-4 Super Street sandbaggers. I also noticed that Super Street does not require 11.49 certification and surely Super Street is a faster class running 9's vs. the much slower 10.90 index. I think it's a great rule when trying to limit the crowd but it will hurt the class at first. This is probably why Super Street does not have an 11.49 certification rule even though we know an 11.50 truck is not competitive in Super Street. Furthermore, I understand the 11.49 rule for Pro Street, don't want those top competitors having to make pointless half power passes to knock out the 11.50+ riff raff that would enter in hopes of the bigger guys breaking and getting in on an easy purse.
But like I already stated, my truck is properly equipped so I personally don't care, just made an innocent suggestion.
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01-08-2015, 05:36 PM
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#148
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Name: IdahoRob
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IIRC super street does have the 11.49 safety rules in place.
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01-08-2015, 06:14 PM
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#149
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Name: Twright
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Stoked. That is all.
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01-08-2015, 06:46 PM
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#150
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Name: Todd W
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A few years back when the 11.49 certification was needed for SS I called my local nhra inspector and asked if I could get my roll bar certified to 10.0. He was very confused and said that no such certification exists, no sticker could be provided for the roll bar. he said certs do not start until 9.99. so unless this has changed then it is strictly up to the techs on race day to determine whether or not you will be allowed to run. if it were me I would just sign up for the class and hope the techs let you by. as long as you don't run under your what you are allowed safety wise I don't see the track caring at all.
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01-08-2015, 06:53 PM
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#151
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Name: Subman631
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I'm not aware of an actual certification for roll bars to 10.0. There are some regulations on side bar height, size of the tubing used and secured to the truck frame etc, but I don't think there is an actual certification for it.
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01-08-2015, 09:56 PM
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#152
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Name: Runninlean
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Guess I missed that. There is no 11.49 cert per say however 11.49 to 10.00 ET's require a roll bar 6 point minimum.
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01-13-2015, 11:54 PM
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#153
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Name: Twisted Shifter
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The 25k Answer
Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRDA
Here is a draft of the proposed rules for the 10.90 class
NHRDA 10.90 Index Class Abbreviation – TBA
• Heads-Up class with 10.90 Index
• 4/10ths Pro Tree
• Pro ladder by closest to the 10.90 index without going under
• Lane choice by closest to the 10.90 index without going under
• Auto Start on
• Must have a current NHRDA membership, competition number and class abbreviation on vehicle
• NHRDA and MBRP Diesel Drag Race Series decals must be displayed on both sides of the vehicle and be in plain view
• All Exhaust must exit up and away from vehicle
• Vehicle must be certified to run 11.49 seconds and faster
• NHRA and/or IHRA approved roll bar and SFI 45.1 roll cage padding required
• Fuel cells are permitted and do not have to be mounted in stock location ( Fuel cells must be SFI 28.1 or 28.2 certified)
• Battery(s) that are not forward of OEM Firewall, but must be mounted in an approved box.
• Master electrical cutoff required if battery is moved from non-OEM position. (Cutoff must be located at the rear of the vehicle and outside of the body)
• Auto Trans reverse lockout and neutral safety required on Auto Trans
• Working taillight required. Flashing ,blinking , or strobe lights prohibited
• Liquid Overflow required
• Steel valve stems in all tubeless tires required
• Drive line loop required
• SFI 1.1 or 1.2 Flywheel / Clutch required
• SFI 6.1, 6.2 or 6.3 Bellhousing or 9.1 Flywheel shield required
• SFI 3.2A/1 jacket required (Jackets must have NHRDA patch on left or right chest)
• SFI Spec 16.1 or 16.5 driver restraints required
• Helmet Certified to SNELL 2005 or 2010 standards, or certified to SFI Specs 31.1/2005, 41.1/2005, 31.1/2010 or 41.1/2010 required if running 13.99 or quicker
IF RUNNING 10.99 seconds or quicker
• SFI 4.1 Transmission Shield required
• SFI 18.1 Harmonic Balancer required
• Roll Cage and SFI 45.1 roll cage padding required with altered floor plans or non-OEM firewall (SFI 27.1 window net then required)
• Auto trans locking-type dipstick required
IF RUNNING 135 mph and faster
• Must have a current NHRA chassis certification for 9.99 or 135 mph and faster
• Must have a current NHRA license for 9.99 or 135 mph and faster
• Full Face Helmet (Must have helmet meeting Snell SA2005, K2005, M2005, SA2010, SAH2010, K2010, M2010 or SFI 31.1/2005, 41.1/2005, 31.1/2010 or 41.1/2010 specs) required
• SFI 3.2A/5 Jacket and Pants required
• SFI Neck Collar 3.3 required
• SFI Gloves 3.3/5 required
• SFI Boots or shoes 3.3/5 required
• SFI 29.1 Flexplate / 30.1 Flexplate shield (AT equipped cars) required
• SFI 45.1 Roll cage padding required
• SFI 27.1 Window Net required
• Master Electrical Shutoff required (must be located at rear of vehicle and outside the body)
• Parachute required running 150 mph and faster
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And you got all of this for 25k, is Obama running things these days....
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01-14-2015, 03:45 PM
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#154
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Name: Subman631
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Chris what gives you haven't posted on here since 2011 now all of a sudden you come out of the wood work and start taking shots at NHRDA, thought that tiff was over years ago.
What gives or are you just going to sit on the sideline and take cheap shots?
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01-14-2015, 07:16 PM
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#155
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Name: Twisted Shifter
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No cheap shots, facts are facts.
What tiff, was no tiff..... It's called being used.
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01-15-2015, 12:28 AM
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#156
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Name: Subman631
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Shifter
No cheap shots, facts are facts.
What tiff, was no tiff..... It's called being used.
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Well I sure there are two sides to every used story but I'm not privy to any of it so unless you feel it is totally important to air your grievance here in this thread why don't you contact NHRDA direct as you really have nothing constructive to add to the current discussion that I can see.
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04-11-2015, 03:52 PM
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#157
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Name: Subman631
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Runninlean...where are all the trucks that were waiting for a 10 second index class, they sure were not in Bakersfield and pretty pathetic turnout in Ennis as well. 7 trucks and only 5 made a pass first round three of those singles. Thought there were lots in the south especially Texas who wanted it????
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