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well after some research on here and duallyscene.com. im getting a parallel 4 link, c-notch and pan hard bar from suicidedoors.com and ditching the leaf springs. i should have done this 2 years ago but i was dumb. for the mean time im going to pull the air bags trim some of the frame andjst deal with it.
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Johndeere9610
Ford guy
Just some info on pressure. My semi on air ride unloaded has about 6psi in the bags and loaded it runs about 58 psi and that is no springs just sitting on air. So with your 5 or ten pounds with springs its going to ride like ass. I'm also thinking semi bags are tied together and they have a leveler valve that is tied to the frame and axle when the truck is loaded and the frame down the lever valve adds air to get back to the preset ride height. The trucks also have a dump valve so in case you have a low trailer you can dump the air to get under it.
Don't if this help but thought I would share
Don't if this help but thought I would share
toolmanoffroad
Dont tread on me
Finding the sweet spot takes some time, but I would imagine that you are running to high of a pressure. I have no leaves and only run 20lbs max at ride height (9in bag) and 40lbs with a gooseneck. As far as the ride goes the bags being tied together have nothing to to with that, and will only effect leaning when cornering. It also looks like you are running 1/4in line and that bleeds side to side much slower than 3/8. If ya need help let me know.. hell I might even have an old valve block lying around.
The chains are temporary, you dont want all that weight hanging on the rack with nothing to limit the travel :Cheer:
The chains are temporary, you dont want all that weight hanging on the rack with nothing to limit the travel :Cheer:
Joesixpack
Pull'n it.
I'd say those bags are too big in diameter for a decent ride loaded light. A longer smaller diameter bag would ride way better.
Semi's have the bags tied together just like you have, that isn't the problem. A ride height valve would be nice.
Semi's have the bags tied together just like you have, that isn't the problem. A ride height valve would be nice.
toolmanoffroad
Dont tread on me
Normal rule of thumb is run the biggest bag you can fit. A small diameter bag takes way too much pressure to lift. With a large bag you can make it ride like a Caddy... Well maybe a Buick... :lolly: Bag position plays a big part also. If the bag is mounted too high or two low your pressure at "ride height" can be way soft or hard. For a custom setup its very hard to just mount it and be done with it. :Cheer:
1lowdiesel
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Correct the bigger the better. If you were to switch to a sleeve bag it would make a world of difference. I didn't realize you were mono leafed and running bags, they are known for a ****ty ride. Doing the 4 link and panhard is going to be a world of difference over what you have now. Run some Slam RE8s back there either over axle or in a 6 Link set up like i'm running. as far as the bags being tied together, unless your valves are far away from the bags isolating them isn't going to make that big of a difference. I have my bags tied together but my valves are only like a foot from the T. i can take corners like a beast. The position of the shock in the link set up will also make a difference.
Running load helper bags with full leafs VS what you have are no comparison BTW.
Also you will want to call SSD before you order that stuff b/c they are usually back logged for a few weeks to a month before they can get stuff shipped out.
Running load helper bags with full leafs VS what you have are no comparison BTW.
Also you will want to call SSD before you order that stuff b/c they are usually back logged for a few weeks to a month before they can get stuff shipped out.
dieselbeef
dick doggin
ummm..never noticed how they bounce on the lowriders rigs??
toolmanoffroad
Dont tread on me
Thats from a chitty setup, and most lowriders are running torched springs, no travel, chitty shocks if any... its just as bad as the lifted truck guys with huge stacked springs(Man I miss lowriders :evil). If done right airbags are awesome... done wrong and there a nightmare (im still chasing freekin leaks)
1lowdiesel
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hey you can always buy a bagged and bd'd chevy with a cummins and be done.... all the hard work is already done 
1lowdiesel
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You don't need semi bags but they do help to tow that kind of weight so you can keep the psi down. There are really no sites for a DIY but just do some searching on some sport truck sites and read and learn.
hey you can always buy a bagged and bd'd chevy with a cummins and be done.... all the hard work is already done
i still might lol
apocalypse1812
Nailed It!
How so? when you hit a pothole one wheel dips down, that bag "inflates", and the other bag deflates...
when you hit lets say a log, that tire will go up, deflating the bag, causing the other bag to inflate...
If you have a chitty road, the ride will be noticeably different...
you really notice it in a corner, because youre in it longer than you are going over a rough patch/obstacle in the road.
Just my $.02
1lowdiesel
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wooooo :Cheer:
1lowdiesel
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That compression vs air transfer is so fast that you will never be able to notice a difference in ride either way. If you hit a pot hole or a log you're gonna feel it no matter which way you look at it. If you're just looking to reduce body roll run the bags seperate, if you're trying to make it ride better going straight that's not a point of interest.
jmho
toolmanoffroad
Dont tread on me
Bingo.. I would say its best to have them separated, but it also sucks trying to level out the truck with them tied together. I can steer my truck down the road just by adding air left or right in the rear.... fun, but also a pain in the azz. When they were tied together it always set level, but would start to lean in a long corner.
Lower
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1997 Dodge Ram Air Suspension Kits
Bolt on kits.
Bolt on kits.