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02-08-2016, 10:41 PM
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Name: winkdemon
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looks really good tate, should of let me know you were doing this, could of cut them out with a plasma talbe would have saved tou a bunch of time and zip cut blades
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02-08-2016, 11:10 PM
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Name: WUnderwood
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Awesome thread/detailed pictures/ and welding. Wish I had your skill set!
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02-09-2016, 12:01 PM
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Name: biggy238
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Did you say you had files on the brackets and tabs? Or all manual?
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02-09-2016, 12:08 PM
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Name: Marq92
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Why didn't you just go with Carli airbags? With only airbags the ride will probably be like stock or worse.
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02-09-2016, 02:36 PM
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Name: jimbo486
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Originally Posted by Marq92
Why didn't you just go with Carli airbags? With only airbags the ride will probably be like stock or worse.
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How?
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02-09-2016, 02:45 PM
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Name: Tate
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Originally Posted by biggy238
Did you say you had files on the brackets and tabs? Or all manual?
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I drew the link brackets up on graph paper. Ones like the panhard brackets were done on a piece of cardboard and then finalized it when I actually laid it out on the steel. The front was mostly just laid out on the steel before I cut it.
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Originally Posted by Marq92
Why didn't you just go with Carli airbags? With only airbags the ride will probably be like stock or worse.
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The front rides similar to the Carli setup. I'm betting its mainly due to the shocks, as the spring rate is much lower than factory. Its around 250 lbs/in. The rear is hundred times smoother than it was before, as it has a much softer spring rate as well. I don't know the spring rates on it, but its close to the same as the front at the given pressures, so it would be around 120 lbs/in. unloaded.
Any links on the carli air springs?
EDIT: Never mind, Google just found them for me. That's still just an overload system on leaf springs. While it would've cured my initial complaints of no load capacity, there is still no adjustability with it. After having my ramps shoot out on my rzr and caving in my tailgate, being able to have it drop down 9" makes it loading much easier without worrying about the ramps as much.
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02-09-2016, 03:32 PM
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Name: Ghostman
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Wow, very nice job! Like the small details!
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02-09-2016, 06:26 PM
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Name: biggy238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tate
I drew the link brackets up on graph paper. Ones like the panhard brackets were done on a piece of cardboard and then finalized it when I actually laid it out on the steel. The front was mostly just laid out on the steel before I cut it.
The front rides similar to the Carli setup. I'm betting its mainly due to the shocks, as the spring rate is much lower than factory. Its around 250 lbs/in. The rear is hundred times smoother than it was before, as it has a much softer spring rate as well. I don't know the spring rates on it, but its close to the same as the front at the given pressures, so it would be around 120 lbs/in. unloaded.
Any links on the carli air springs?
EDIT: Never mind, Google just found them for me. That's still just an overload system on leaf springs. While it would've cured my initial complaints of no load capacity, there is still no adjustability with it. After having my ramps shoot out on my rzr and caving in my tailgate, being able to have it drop down 9" makes it loading much easier without worrying about the ramps as much.
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Bummer. I would have pimped your 'wares
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03-07-2016, 05:51 AM
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Name: fordpickupman
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Airride
Great work. Good job on the brackets, making those by hand is a bunch of work and time consuming. The plasma table has been a priceless tool for that kind of work.
Keep us updated with how it performs for you.
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03-07-2016, 07:15 AM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by Tate
Something I forgot to mention, I used an Accu-Air E-level air management system. For the most part, its a well put together kit. As it should be. It was about 60% of the budget on this thing.
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Why not just use a standard leveling valve like every other air ride suspension on the road?
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03-07-2016, 08:20 AM
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Name: malibu795
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
Why not just use a standard leveling valve like every other air ride suspension on the road?
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Guessing on fly adjustability? https://accuair.com/airmanagementpro...e-w-touchpad-2
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03-07-2016, 11:31 AM
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Name: dvst8r
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
Why not just use a standard leveling valve like every other air ride suspension on the road?
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Tate is working 12's currently. I am sure he will elaborate on a day off, but in short, just like the whole build: "overkill / because he could".
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03-07-2016, 12:49 PM
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Name: jlbayes
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very nice! like how that is laid out.
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03-07-2016, 01:03 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dvst8r
Tate is working 12's currently. I am sure he will elaborate on a day off, but in short, just like the whole build: "overkill / because he could".
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Originally Posted by malibu795
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Well IMO that's the beautiful thing about air ride, you don't have to ever mess with it. Rides the exact same height loaded or empty. Just been my experience anything electronic used under a truck is a headache. Not taking away from this build at all, looks great just curious.
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Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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03-07-2016, 01:15 PM
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Name: wideopen
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Nice Work!!
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03-07-2016, 02:04 PM
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Name: khaoskustoms
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Nice job Tate!! Want to do my 2wd Dually next? lol
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03-08-2016, 05:23 AM
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Name: not enoughsmoke
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looks great I wish i had the time to work on mine more to finish up my 95
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03-08-2016, 05:30 AM
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Name: STROKETHISF350
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This is def the way to go, had this on my dodge before I took my kelderman air ride off. It's awesome to just hop in the truck hit a bottom and the truck sets itself to the preset ride height automatically.
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03-08-2016, 08:00 AM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by STROKETHISF350
This is def the way to go, had this on my dodge before I took my kelderman air ride off. It's awesome to just hop in the truck hit a bottom and the truck sets itself to the preset ride height automatically.
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I guess I'm not seeing how this is different from one of these. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1457445608.395900.jpg
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Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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03-08-2016, 08:07 AM
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Name: zfaylor
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
I guess I'm not seeing how this is different from one of these. Attachment 62138
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Because it isn't made for a pickup truck so they can't put the necessary 1000% markup on it
The electronic ride height deal is a cool gadget but the standard leveling valve off of a semi is pretty darn foolproof. Put in a pressure gauge and you can calculate weight over the rear axle too.
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