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Old 12-10-2013, 10:14 AM   #1
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Lubricating fuel system 2012 TDI

I'm pretty leary of additives like howes and power service (unless it is so cold I don't have a choice). I've read a lot about using supertech 2 stroke mix at a 200:1 ratio to help lubricate your injectors and pump. I know your not supposed to do it if you have a DPF, but that problem has been solved. So is supertech a good option, or is there something else I should be using? Also, if supertech is a good option what ratio for the TDI, and can I use powerservice/howes when it gets cold? Any help would be appreciated!
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Old 12-10-2013, 01:33 PM   #2
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Why don't you like Power Service?
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:39 AM   #3
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It's not that I don't like it, it works great for stopping fuel from gelling but as far as lubricity it doesn't seem to do much. http://articles.mopar1973man.com/gen...fuel-additives
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:32 PM   #4
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I read some where about ATF but theirs a lot of detergents in that
 
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There are a lot of friction multipliers in ATF, NEVER use that in your fuel.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:05 AM   #6
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In my 13 I add 40 oz of b100 to give me a 2% mix of bio and diesel. Based on what I have read, an independent article on diesel fuel additives that is linked on the TDI forum 2% gave some great lubricity increases in the fuel. There is as an additive: XPD Diesel Fuel Improver which also tested well.


I have my DPF still in place so I an being careful of what I run.
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I looked for bio stations around me, and there isn't one for probably 30 miles, at least not that I can tell.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:12 PM   #8
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There are a lot of friction multipliers in ATF, NEVER use that in your fuel.
I'm pretty sure I read Type F has NO friction modifiers. That is why you can't mix F with ATF+4.
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Never ever use ATF, tears pumps and injectors up something terrible.

I use the Super Tech in all my trucks. It's an ash less oil TW3C. To me it works well and after having a few VP and CR pumps apart after it's use I see no ill effects. A lot less scuffing due to poor lubricity during the winter months.
 
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Wow, so many people feel the same about ATF as a "fuel" as I do!
Now if the rest would also just see the light on WMO and long term injector coking...

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Old 12-27-2013, 04:16 PM   #11
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Never ever use ATF, tears pumps and injectors up something terrible.

I use the Super Tech in all my trucks. It's an ash less oil TW3C. To me it works well and after having a few VP and CR pumps apart after it's use I see no ill effects. A lot less scuffing due to poor lubricity during the winter months.
What ratio do you use?
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:37 PM   #12
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Normally 1qt per 35 gallon. But on a DPF system 8oz per 35 gallon.

What size tank do you have 15 gallon?
 
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14.5 gallon tank, no DPF anymore.
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2 stroke oil? It's designed to burn and lubricate...........
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I buy fuel from my jobber by the tanker load and Power Service+Cetane Boost is already added to the tanker. Every town or city has a bulk fuel plant that allows for public use, we are supplied a card to swipe 24 hours a day. Talking with my salesman there revealed that almost 100% of their deliveries to stores & truck stops are untreated fuel to save money or a better margin! Been buying there for 4 years and very little out on the road has proven Power Service products to me. I make our trucks top off every day no matter how little or much they need and has solved a lot of fuel related issues we were having. What I'm trying to say is, go by and visit with your local fuel jobber and ask questions, you may be buying treated fuel in your area or you may not. And just because it might be posted on a pump at a truck stop as treated fuel, more than likely it's not. Go to the jobber if you really want to make sure.
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