6.7 daily/dyno contest what turbo

[zfaylor]

Originally Posted by CorneliusRox

Would a single blade with a counter weight work even better though?!

As long as it was billet, yes.

[bracker8040]

Originally Posted by blackmega3500

Says the guy that's been proven publicly wrong on multiple instances! #pittythefool

You talking about yourself, fool?

[bracker8040]

Originally Posted by blackmega3500

And you are?........

Speak when spoken to, and don't play fan boy so much!

Weston knows he gives more advice based $$$$ than actual facts. He's in it to make money after all, being honest often isn't profitable.

Hints his bait to the OP for the sale in his last post.

If you can't see it, lol on you.

It doesn’t matter who I am.
I read enough on here to have a pretty good idea who is a fool, and who isn’t. And to call Weston dishonest is simply not true. Puts the joke back on you.

[JWhite]

Originally Posted by blackmega3500

Cobra attack copters beat you to it.....



But considering size does matter with regard to volume the compressor housing will be your biggest hurdle!

Now let's have some flavors of volume it multiple counts!







So what's your pick? And which freighter do you think will max out output potential the fastest.

I'm not sure how you compare propulsion to compression, but whatever.

You are stating thing backwards. An 11 blade compressor will typically move more air at a lower rpm, but fall off in the higher pressure ratios. Say on a 5 blade, there's more area for each blade to grab air at high rpm, but at low rpm it's more difficult for the compressor to hold air back on the discharge side.

But I'm an idiot, sooo...

[Smokem]

Originally Posted by blackmega3500

Weston knows he gives more advice based $$$$ than actual facts. He's in it to make money after all, being honest often isn't profitable.

Hints his bait to the OP for the sale in his last post.

Of which I sent him actual back to back dyno comparison info, you know the object you have no experience with.

The fact you are showing a Kaplan turbine to argue your point shows just how completely clueless you are.

[zfaylor]

So you ARE saying blade count is the only determining factor here? Your take on blade count being back asswards to the entire turbo community aside of course.

[RacinDuallie]

[JWhite]

Originally Posted by blackmega3500

No, all I originally said was the 5 blades will fall flat faster and high volume manufacturer's are even going back to the 7 from the 6 blade beingthe difference is minimal yet the 7 makes more power.

Back asswards?...... you mean like how Borg brought the 10/11 blade designs of their large frame SXE turbos to increase both responsiveness and extend out the peak efficiency curve?

So they're wrong too is what your saying.....

So you're saying a 5 and 6 blade move air faster at a lower rpm, but the OEMs went to 11 blade to increase response (more air at a lower rpm)? So which is it?

[zfaylor]

Originally Posted by JWhite

So you're saying a 5 and 6 blade move air faster at a lower rpm, but the OEMs went to 11 blade to increase response (more air at a lower rpm)? So which is it?

Good luck. You will get a generalized response back where he will dance around the idea that they utilized a 10 blade compressor to get more low end response and they redesigned the wheel entirely to help get more top end power back. He fails to remember that they designed the SX-E lineup for overall performance to compete with Garrett in the gas crowd. The previous line of S300 and S400 turbochargers were designed for non emissions OEM applications (mostly John Deere tractors and 60 series Detroits). Garrett utilizes 11 blade compressors in emissions applications to get air moving down low (Duramax, 6.7 Powerstroke, C15 CAT high pressure, C13 CAT high pressure, Isuzu, etc...) but I am sure they were flat out wrong. This guy knows everything there is about turbochargers but is a roof salesman last I knew. Next we will hear about how a GTX55R flows more air than a 171702 Box cast S475 because it has a 13 blade single plane compressor.


If the key to compressor design is simply a 7+ blade design then why isn't every single turbo built this way again?

Just an FYI blackmega but a 6 blade compressor is actually a 12 blade as it has splitters in between on a 2nd plane. I am sure you already knew this though.

[Smokem]

Originally Posted by blackmega3500

Yet you live behind your graphs of incomparable setups with very little real world applications outside of a dyno, and amazingly ironic is how often you're unable to explain when others have experiences that contradict your graphs lol.

You're such a joke it cracks me up.

We have over 10k miles on both a 5.9L and 6.7L in a street application in real world testing for the revised 68mm compressor, and decided today that said turbo vs a BW S369 heads up will be the first video we bring to our new YouTube channel.

I'm not going to argue anything on the internet, especially well known concepts which completely agree with my "graphs" that the entire industry uses, and yet only you disagree with. There is only one joke in this thread, and it's pretty obvious to anyone with basic reading skills.

[RacinDuallie]

Hang on......



Needed a fresh bag.

[Howling]

Dyson is getting into the turbo field with their new bladeless design

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

[JWhite]

Originally Posted by zfaylor

Good luck. You will get a generalized response back where he will dance around .

You noticed that too, huh?

[zfaylor]

This guy is a prime example of why people who actually do these things for a living stay off of forums. I won't argue with this guy. He knows everything about every single topic on this forum. As a roof salesman....

[zfaylor]

Originally Posted by blackmega3500

The 10/11 blade design was to extend the peak power range, while the low end performance as Zfaylor knows was not only due to a redesigned wheel, but matching the wheels to higher volume flowing compressor covers. Theres that little word again.... let's say it slowly..... VOLLLUUUUME.



You realize that the reason the industry refers to them as "X" blades is that's what drawing air at the inlet to the main compressor?....ya know that's where the reduction of weight and larger "scoop aka draw" occurs.

I'll flip your arguement....

Have you considered the fact that the reason stock applications DO NOT use 5 or 6 blade compressors is the lack of functional torque input for applications. This results in a more controllable powerband for mass OEM application end user and not one seeking max power input.

Not to mention overspeed, drive pressure, and turbo surge between shifts that are common with less blades. Imagine how long of a duty cycle a 6 blade would last in an industrial application....

You just contradicted yourself and 6 blade compressors are used widely in industrial applications (various tv series garretts on detroits, cats, you name it, 3406 btg75, 3406 gta47, c15 gta55, select 8.3 hx40s, many flavors of the gta42, and many more) You are a moron. Good luck arguing with yourself in the mirror. You are very toxic to this forum.

[zfaylor]

Good news is I guess Holset makes 2.6, 3.0, and 3.6 smoothbore turbos now along with Hot Farm and Semi racing/pulling stuff. Good luck fellas. This "drop shipper" is out. Blackmega has gone full on fuktard. Good luck selling roofs and telling every vendor you encounter on this forum they are wrong sweetheart.

[zfaylor]

Yeah my ego is massive...

[RacinDuallie]

Originally Posted by blackmega3500

That statement was geared toward dangerous06 when he recommended the 464/465.

Hey Smokem...... long time no banter!

How are all those test stand turbos on those imaginary real world trucks doing these days?

You been testing turbos on Racindualies jackstands again?

He loves him some mirror bling under the hood!

It's pretty awesome what happens when you actually come from behind the X/Y graphs, you know where real data is found.

Hey faggot,

Keep my name from coming out your mouth, you are really starting to sound obsessed.

Keep up with your vast knowledge, the boat prop comparison in a turbo thread.......

[RacinDuallie]

Originally Posted by blackmega3500

Man those jackstands really got you slow to the show.....

Hell that was 2 days ago and your just now seeing it even though you've been bagging cornholes in 2 separate posts since then....

I'm disappointed in you.

Anyhow, if I was truly formal in introducing you in to a topic you'd be sir' goatphucker....

Everybody knows Racinduallie as the guy knows the phrase of "cutting a light" to be involved with flipping the garage light off after installing a new billet dildo as his shifter knob.

You keep talking bout my truck. You definitely are JELLY.

I'm terribly sorry you have a ****ing plain Jane ash tray looking engine compartment.

Do this board a favour and stop with the misinformation, m'kay.

[zachu812]

Gee I learned more in this thread than I did getting my BSEE, thanks Kevin. Have you thought about being a turbo consultant for all the OEMs? Could easily double that $400k in commission.