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Old 11-06-2018, 07:52 AM   #1
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O-ringing CR block, what wire protrusion?

I am debating on O-ringing my CR block with my Isky O-ring tool and wanted to see what you guys run for wire protrusion with the MLS gaskets. I use the thicker MLS gasket, I believe its .015" thicker.

I use .035 wire and usually run a .015" wire protrusion but that was on 24v/12v gaskets, I didnt know if it should be different on a MLS gasket.

I dont have time for fire rings as I am in a rush, need to have it done by tomorrow evening. So its either O-ring the block or leave it alone and just install a new gasket.

I appreciate any advice!
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:25 AM   #2
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Torque the head bolts tighter and run it.
 
Old 11-06-2018, 08:30 AM   #3
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Torque the head bolts tighter and run it.
I went to 140ft lbs this last time on my ole ARP 2000s.

Moar?

I just rebuilt the head, so it should be in good shape. Nice and flat.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:41 AM   #4
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I went to 140ft lbs this last time on my ole ARP 2000s.

Moar?

I just rebuilt the head, so it should be in good shape. Nice and flat.
Well, I said bolts, not studs.
 
Old 11-06-2018, 10:53 AM   #5
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Well, I said bolts, not studs.
That's it, always leave yourself an "out".

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Haisley fire ring or nothing.

I’ve put 20k of hot street driving with no issues
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Old 11-06-2018, 01:06 PM   #7
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That's it, always leave yourself an "out".

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An out? I have had better results with head bolts, that's the gist of it.
 
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Haisley fire ring or nothing.

I’ve put 20k of hot street driving with no issues
Yea, my new motor has fire rings and 14mm head studs, I just wanted to try and get this one to last a little longer.
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Old 11-06-2018, 02:32 PM   #9
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An out? I have had better results with head bolts, that's the gist of it.
I run stock bolts torqued to 120ft lbs on my 04 with a small tow twins set and stock fuel, knock on wood (as I am about to drag 20k lbs across 3 states) I havent had a problem in 200k miles.

This truck makes almost 3 times as much HP though.
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We use .010-.012” on standard 12v-24v gaskets and .006-.007” on MLS
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Old 11-06-2018, 05:32 PM   #11
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Phillip Franklin brought something up I never thought about on the MLS gaskets, they aren’t round... so it makes since that O-ringing would be less than ideal for that style gasket.

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Old 11-06-2018, 07:19 PM   #12
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I'd leave er. Good and flat goes a long way. And step up to 625's.
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Phillip Franklin brought something up I never thought about on the MLS gaskets, they aren’t round... so it makes since that O-ringing would be less than ideal for that style gasket.

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