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06-03-2018, 10:20 PM
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Name: wideopen
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03' making oil no smoke
Have an 03' that is getting a lot of fuel in the oil. And isn't smoking at all.
I pulled the injectors and crossover tubes. Nothing stands out about the injectors the crossover tube bodies look rough, but the tips look ok.
Am I wrong for thinking that if the injectors were the issue, stuck open wouldn't it be smoking? If the tubes were leaking would it dump into the crankcase or the cylinder?
What about the injection pump? I've heard the seal could be bad dumping fuel into the front cover?
Thanks!
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06-04-2018, 05:35 AM
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Name: 06 DIESEL
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I know a few people that have had injector bodies go bad and they never smoked, just made oil and it still showed good oil pressure on the idiot gauge.
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06-04-2018, 07:03 AM
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Name: biggy238
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Is it possible to push fuel out of the solenoid area on the Bosch units? I've had this on Delphi injectors in the past.
If you want to be thorough, get a fuel dye and black light. Bypass your tank (return and supply) and run it from a 5 gallon bucket of dyed fuel. Run the engine with the valve cover off and wait for a fluorescent trail to appear under the black light.
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06-04-2018, 07:28 AM
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Name: Snedge
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Is it possible to push fuel out of the solenoid area on the Bosch units?
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Yep. We've seen that more than a few times. Black light is the ticket.
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06-04-2018, 08:09 AM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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Is it possible to push fuel out of the solenoid area on the Bosch units? I've had this on Delphi injectors in the past...
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Yes, seen a few.
Also, an injector can have a cracked injector body.
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06-04-2018, 10:05 AM
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Name: wideopen
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Hmmm Thanks for the info boys.
So Dye test it is.
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06-04-2018, 02:11 PM
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Name: wideopen
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Got it back together, now it won't start...FML
no leaks on the lines..Today is not my day.
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06-04-2018, 02:25 PM
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Name: 1stgensleeper
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Got it back together, now it won't start...FML
no leaks on the lines..Today is not my day.
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Lines as in the crossover tubes as well?
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06-04-2018, 02:45 PM
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Name: wideopen
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No leaks in the lines from the rail to tubes.
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06-04-2018, 04:04 PM
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Name: wideopen
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Found an injector body that appears to be cracked. I'm pretty sure that is the problem.
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06-04-2018, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wideopen
Found an injector body that appears to be cracked. I'm pretty sure that is the problem.
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Right. Cracks are where the fuel can leak out.
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06-04-2018, 08:12 PM
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Name: biggy238
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And kill you
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06-04-2018, 09:13 PM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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I just don't fancy the idea of potentially having diesel fuel force fed under my skin, or into my bloodstream.
Seems like a possibly gruesome way to check out.
Mark.
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06-04-2018, 09:30 PM
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Name: wideopen
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New injectors truck in running good, not making oil.
Thanks For the help guys
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06-04-2018, 10:55 PM
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Complete set?
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Why not? Especially when insurance is footing the bill.
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06-05-2018, 12:02 AM
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Name: Mark Nixon
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Doubt that was the case here lol!
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It was in yours.
That had "scam" written all over it, from beginning to end. 
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06-05-2018, 07:31 AM
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Name: biggy238
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Yeah, has there actually been any such documented incidents? No doubting the dangers obviously, just have never seen or read of someone actually being injured from the HPCR system.
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I suppose through the miracle of modern medicine, we can just lop-off whatever appendage is affected.
The only fuel system related death I'm aware of occurred in Alabama I think. Guy unbolts an injector in a bulldozer and has his assistant crank the engine over. Cylinder fires, injector dislodges and decapitates the technician.
It was an MSHA controlled site, there should be a record of it somewhere.
We diagnosed a failed injector for one of our bus customers. They took it back and repaired it. It burnt to the ground the morning it was placed back in service. It was a special needs bus and had just unloaded and was leaving the school.
The pressures involved are dangerous, and shouldn't be downplayed. It's instinctual to place your hand over a spray if it's hitting your face.
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