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Redrider2911 · 12-01-2016, 09:05 PM

After seeing this I am definitely 99% sure that this head indeed isn't flat at all. So it's off to the machine shop tomorrow, curious to hear how far out it was.

What I am still confused about is how does a blown gasket on the drivers side lead to pushing oil out the passenger side? Anyone have any insight to this? Also confused on why the gasket is separating and bubbling up in areas that aren't clamped between the block and head. Was this just a bad gasket? I'm pretty confident that it was a genuine cummins gasket after watching a few comparison videos.

I'm pretty sure that at least one of these ports had to of been blown since the first drive. It was burning blue smoke quite a bit and I had ridiculous blow by. I was just telling myself that it was only because this engine didn't even have 100 miles on it and the rings needed time to seat, plus I have read that some blue smoke can be attributed to cold diesel and it has been in the high 20s, low 30s. Apparently I was wrong...

4x4dually · 12-02-2016, 06:34 AM

Dang...all of them...the same. That is nuts.

biggy238 · 12-02-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrider2911

Ok.... SO. I believe I have found the problem! Freakin 2-5 all blown out between the cylinder and oil port.

When was the last retorque and how it was done?

Something smart goes here

Redrider2911 · 12-02-2016, 09:58 AM

3 retorques over a weeks time while the engine was waiting to be installed. 1 warm retorque after I got the engine fired up and up to temp. Torqued to 130 lbs where I started to feel some bolt stretch from the SHCS. Used the Cummins torque sequence.

Chrisd91 · 12-03-2016, 11:12 PM

Is that where the the ends of the o-rings meet on those cylinders?

Redrider2911 · 12-04-2016, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrisd91

Is that where the the ends of the o-rings meet on those cylinders?

Nope. They meet on the passenger side between the 2 water passages.

CorneliusRox · 12-04-2016, 12:23 AM

Is that an aluminum exhaust manifold? Do you see any creep from the gas temps and cantilevered turbo?

DDually · 12-04-2016, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CorneliusRox

Is that an aluminum exhaust manifold? Do you see any creep from the gas temps and cantilevered turbo?

As far as I know its steel. He has a build thread on it. It may be much earlier in this thread.

Chrisd91 · 12-04-2016, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CorneliusRox

Is that an aluminum exhaust manifold? Do you see any creep from the gas temps and cantilevered turbo?

It is not aluminum

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Originally Posted by Redrider2911

Nov 21st 2015

Custom turbo manifold out of sheet metal? Sure! Why not?

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CorneliusRox · 12-05-2016, 09:27 AM

Ah, it's just painted a silver color. It looked like oxidized aluminum from the picture.

Redrider2911 · 12-05-2016, 10:34 AM

Yep, just the color. Trying to go for all those metal tones with the paint.

Redrider2911 · 12-08-2016, 11:46 PM

Drove the truck home today in about 6" of snow. No heater. No windshield wipers. It actually worked out well that I didn't have either. Lol kept the snow from melting and sticking to the windshield. Instead it just blew off. I comfortably did 55mph comfortably on the country road most of the way home. I am very happy with how it handled!

ENafziger · 12-09-2016, 11:11 AM

Bet it feels good to have it back together again! Remind me what you've done on suspension? I thought you used 2.5" RR Kings, but looking back through your build I didn't see it. Maybe I have this confused with something else...

Redrider2911 · 12-09-2016, 11:29 AM

For sure! Going to try to work on the HVAC and wipers today.

I used dominator 2600 air bags.

Redrider2911 · 12-10-2016, 09:23 PM

Got my HVAC box all lasered, formed, and tacked together.

Redrider2911 · 12-14-2016, 11:07 PM

Housing turned out to be backwards. All though it was still blowing ok, I decided to flip the housing around anyways, it actually made it a tad easier to fit under the hood.

Drove it home and had decent heat even without the ducting hooked up. I need to rework the hoses, one of them is kinked a little bit causing inadequate flow of fresh hot coolant.

Mooner1 · 12-15-2016, 06:12 AM

That hvac box is sweet! It's cool when folks make custom stuff and then show how it was done. I like the D.I.Y. Attitude. I see you have a plasma table there, but I'm not all that familiar with the setup. What computer program does it use?

4x4dually · 12-15-2016, 06:22 AM

What 3D modeling software are you using?

Redrider2911 · 12-15-2016, 07:03 AM

Thanks. I do have fun doing it most days. Lol The tools I have available to me definitely make this type of work ALOT easier and more enjoyable.

This is actually a 2500 watt CO2 laser. We picked it up about 11 months ago. Not as cool as the newer fiber optic lasers, but it gets the job done and way better than our plasma table. I used Solidworks for modeling and Pronest for nesting parts on the sheets.

DieselWrencher · 12-15-2016, 03:28 PM

That heater box is sweet! Having those cool tools at your disposal has to be awesome!

12-01-2016, 09:05 PM	#141
Redrider2911 Name: Redrider2911 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Yakima, WA Member`s Gallery Posts: 780	After seeing this I am definitely 99% sure that this head indeed isn't flat at all. So it's off to the machine shop tomorrow, curious to hear how far out it was. What I am still confused about is how does a blown gasket on the drivers side lead to pushing oil out the passenger side? Anyone have any insight to this? Also confused on why the gasket is separating and bubbling up in areas that aren't clamped between the block and head. Was this just a bad gasket? I'm pretty confident that it was a genuine cummins gasket after watching a few comparison videos. I'm pretty sure that at least one of these ports had to of been blown since the first drive. It was burning blue smoke quite a bit and I had ridiculous blow by. I was just telling myself that it was only because this engine didn't even have 100 miles on it and the rings needed time to seat, plus I have read that some blue smoke can be attributed to cold diesel and it has been in the high 20s, low 30s. Apparently I was wrong... __________________ 49 Willys Pickup. 5600lb. 11.8sec @115mph 1/4. 12 valve. MegaSquirted 47RH. 3.54 posi rear. 35" tires. 64mm HE351ve, S475 (75/96/1.32), A/W Intercooler. AFC mods. 5x16s. 191 DVs, 180 pump. 23*. 85psi. Build Thread

12-02-2016, 09:58 AM	#144
Redrider2911 Name: Redrider2911 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Yakima, WA Member`s Gallery Posts: 780	3 retorques over a weeks time while the engine was waiting to be installed. 1 warm retorque after I got the engine fired up and up to temp. Torqued to 130 lbs where I started to feel some bolt stretch from the SHCS. Used the Cummins torque sequence. __________________ 49 Willys Pickup. 5600lb. 11.8sec @115mph 1/4. 12 valve. MegaSquirted 47RH. 3.54 posi rear. 35" tires. 64mm HE351ve, S475 (75/96/1.32), A/W Intercooler. AFC mods. 5x16s. 191 DVs, 180 pump. 23*. 85psi. Build Thread

12-03-2016, 11:12 PM	#145
Chrisd91 Name: Chrisd91 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Washington state Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,808	Is that where the the ends of the o-rings meet on those cylinders? __________________ 01 2500 RCLB 4x4 p24v in transmission purgatory/perennial neglect 95ish 2500 2wd shorty p.o.s. '12 3500 SRW CCLB 4x4 golfball

12-04-2016, 12:23 AM	#147
CorneliusRox Name: CorneliusRox Title: Seasoned Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Detroit, MI Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,154	Is that an aluminum exhaust manifold? Do you see any creep from the gas temps and cantilevered turbo? __________________ Corey - BSME '21 Tesla Model 3 Perf '22 DMax AT4 2500

12-05-2016, 09:27 AM	#150
CorneliusRox Name: CorneliusRox Title: Seasoned Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Detroit, MI Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,154	Ah, it's just painted a silver color. It looked like oxidized aluminum from the picture. __________________ Corey - BSME '21 Tesla Model 3 Perf '22 DMax AT4 2500

12-02-2016, 06:34 AM	#142
4x4dually Name: 4x4dually Title: Moderator Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stillwater, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 31,812	Dang...all of them...the same. That is nuts.

12-05-2016, 10:34 AM	#151
Redrider2911 Name: Redrider2911 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Yakima, WA Member`s Gallery Posts: 780	Yep, just the color. Trying to go for all those metal tones with the paint. __________________ 49 Willys Pickup. 5600lb. 11.8sec @115mph 1/4. 12 valve. MegaSquirted 47RH. 3.54 posi rear. 35" tires. 64mm HE351ve, S475 (75/96/1.32), A/W Intercooler. AFC mods. 5x16s. 191 DVs, 180 pump. 23*. 85psi. Build Thread

12-08-2016, 11:46 PM	#152
Redrider2911 Name: Redrider2911 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Yakima, WA Member`s Gallery Posts: 780	Drove the truck home today in about 6" of snow. No heater. No windshield wipers. It actually worked out well that I didn't have either. Lol kept the snow from melting and sticking to the windshield. Instead it just blew off. I comfortably did 55mph comfortably on the country road most of the way home. I am very happy with how it handled! __________________ 49 Willys Pickup. 5600lb. 11.8sec @115mph 1/4. 12 valve. MegaSquirted 47RH. 3.54 posi rear. 35" tires. 64mm HE351ve, S475 (75/96/1.32), A/W Intercooler. AFC mods. 5x16s. 191 DVs, 180 pump. 23*. 85psi. Build Thread

12-09-2016, 11:11 AM	#153
ENafziger Name: ENafziger Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 843	Bet it feels good to have it back together again! Remind me what you've done on suspension? I thought you used 2.5" RR Kings, but looking back through your build I didn't see it. Maybe I have this confused with something else... __________________ 2006 Dodge 3500 SRW, 62/476 twins, Flux 2.5s, G56, Carli 2.65s, etc. Jer. 33:3 2003 Ford Excursion, '97 Cummins P-Pump, HX35/475 twins, studded and o-ringed, ZF6/271, forged Rickson 19.5s. 1991.5 W250, NV4500, Rickson 19.5s, HE351, long travel suspension build

12-09-2016, 11:29 AM	#154
Redrider2911 Name: Redrider2911 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Yakima, WA Member`s Gallery Posts: 780	For sure! Going to try to work on the HVAC and wipers today. I used dominator 2600 air bags. __________________ 49 Willys Pickup. 5600lb. 11.8sec @115mph 1/4. 12 valve. MegaSquirted 47RH. 3.54 posi rear. 35" tires. 64mm HE351ve, S475 (75/96/1.32), A/W Intercooler. AFC mods. 5x16s. 191 DVs, 180 pump. 23*. 85psi. Build Thread

12-10-2016, 09:23 PM	#155
Redrider2911 Name: Redrider2911 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Yakima, WA Member`s Gallery Posts: 780	Got my HVAC box all lasered, formed, and tacked together. __________________ 49 Willys Pickup. 5600lb. 11.8sec @115mph 1/4. 12 valve. MegaSquirted 47RH. 3.54 posi rear. 35" tires. 64mm HE351ve, S475 (75/96/1.32), A/W Intercooler. AFC mods. 5x16s. 191 DVs, 180 pump. 23*. 85psi. Build Thread

12-14-2016, 11:07 PM	#156
Redrider2911 Name: Redrider2911 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Yakima, WA Member`s Gallery Posts: 780	Housing turned out to be backwards. All though it was still blowing ok, I decided to flip the housing around anyways, it actually made it a tad easier to fit under the hood. Drove it home and had decent heat even without the ducting hooked up. I need to rework the hoses, one of them is kinked a little bit causing inadequate flow of fresh hot coolant. __________________ 49 Willys Pickup. 5600lb. 11.8sec @115mph 1/4. 12 valve. MegaSquirted 47RH. 3.54 posi rear. 35" tires. 64mm HE351ve, S475 (75/96/1.32), A/W Intercooler. AFC mods. 5x16s. 191 DVs, 180 pump. 23. 85psi. Build Thread Last edited by Redrider2911; 12-14-2016 at 11:17 PM.*

12-15-2016, 06:12 AM	#157
Mooner1 Name: Mooner1 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kansas Member`s Gallery Posts: 395	That hvac box is sweet! It's cool when folks make custom stuff and then show how it was done. I like the D.I.Y. Attitude. I see you have a plasma table there, but I'm not all that familiar with the setup. What computer program does it use? __________________ '79 Power Wagon, '83 D-350 crew, '89 Ram Charger, '99 2500 ECLB 5spd, '15 Golf SportWagen TDI

12-15-2016, 06:22 AM	#158
4x4dually Name: 4x4dually Title: Moderator Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stillwater, OK Member`s Gallery Posts: 31,812	What 3D modeling software are you using?

12-15-2016, 07:03 AM	#159
Redrider2911 Name: Redrider2911 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Yakima, WA Member`s Gallery Posts: 780	Thanks. I do have fun doing it most days. Lol The tools I have available to me definitely make this type of work ALOT easier and more enjoyable. This is actually a 2500 watt CO2 laser. We picked it up about 11 months ago. Not as cool as the newer fiber optic lasers, but it gets the job done and way better than our plasma table. I used Solidworks for modeling and Pronest for nesting parts on the sheets. __________________ 49 Willys Pickup. 5600lb. 11.8sec @115mph 1/4. 12 valve. MegaSquirted 47RH. 3.54 posi rear. 35" tires. 64mm HE351ve, S475 (75/96/1.32), A/W Intercooler. AFC mods. 5x16s. 191 DVs, 180 pump. 23. 85psi. Build Thread Last edited by Redrider2911; 12-15-2016 at 07:04 AM.*

12-15-2016, 03:28 PM	#160
DieselWrencher Name: DieselWrencher Title: 6cyl Vette Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mitchellville, Ia Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,886	That heater box is sweet! Having those cool tools at your disposal has to be awesome! __________________ 1968 Corvette 12v Cummins Compounds 47RH 1976 K30 CC SWB 12v 47RH 2000 Excursion VE 24v 47RH 4x4 1972 K30 Longhorn P-Pumped 24v 47RH Compounds